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Elmers Washable School Glue

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2017, 23:13:21 PM »
Reading on the other forums heaps of people use it.  I'm thinking....."Washable" as in......your kids have spilt it all over their clothes while doing craft but it can wash out when you launder the clothes??    I've made my test sandwich...going to leave it to dry and then wash it and see. I think you just have to be very careful which of the Elmers' you use.I shall report back my comrades!
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 23:15:07 PM by rubywishes »
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

Kenora

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 23:58:24 PM »
Very useful research, Ruby - I'm looking forward to hearing the results of your tests!  :)
Minding my P's & Q's in Portreath

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2017, 05:03:42 AM »
I haven't washed my practice sandwich yet....want to make sure it is good and dry first but I did wash the plastic scraper I used to smear it over my fabric. The glue was hard dried on the plastic but just washed away with a bit of warm water, no detergent or heavy rubbing needed. Now I know a plastic scraper is not the same as a fabric sandwich (duh!) but it does seem indicative of a happy ending. :)
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

toileandtrouble

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2017, 16:11:03 PM »
Washable SCHOOL glue?  There would have been a riot at our schools if kids had gone home with clothes covered in hard setting glue.  It's got to wash out.
Yarn down:  1000g
Fabric down:  29m

Hachi

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2017, 19:38:51 PM »
I never thought about it, but "washable" glue is such a misnomer or misuse of the word! (And I just checked my Elmer's glue stick and it totally says "washable") I think more accurate term is "wash-away."

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2017, 20:09:40 PM »
WooHoo! My practice sandwich, which was beautifully dry and stuck together is not a sandwich anymore! (quick note here...to stick my sandwich I drizzled little zig zags of glue across the two pieces of fabric and smeared it out with a plastic spatula before sandwiching with batting).  I put that little sucker in a basin of tepid water and wooshed it about for a few seconds and the glue just dissolved right away....have got the 3 pieces now drying and will wait to see how the fabric and batting feels once it is dry but I am very impressed let me tell you!
Please note that this little experiment is enough confirmation for me to try Elmers White Washable School Glue to baste my next quilt but if anyone else is contemplating it....you need to do your own tests, make sure you purchase the correct type of Elmers White Washable School Glue as there are several types and make up your own mind. I'm not swearing this is "the go", I am just simply reporting that I am happy to use it and to "run the risk" if I end up proving myself wrong.  0_0
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 01:26:24 AM »
Okay, I spoke too soon. I have just retrieved my little fabric pieces from the clothes line where they were drying and you can still feel some stiffness in the fabric afterall. Hmmmmm, so I've brought them in and am now washing them in a basin with the same detergent I would use to wash my completed quilts, perhaps just soaking in water "unsticks" the layers but doesn't wash the glue out. I probly was being a bit unrealistic to think that just water would do the trick.

If the detergent doesn't wash it out then "it's all gone to hell in a handbag" as my Nana used to say. I'll know by tonight.
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

Pearl

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2017, 17:32:24 PM »
Is this useful, Ruby?  It popped up on fb this afternoon.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKA9oHK6swM
« Last Edit: December 10, 2017, 17:40:33 PM by Pearl »

Kenora

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2017, 19:29:35 PM »
What a shame, Ruby - it was all looking so promising too.  :S
Minding my P's & Q's in Portreath

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2017, 23:47:44 PM »
Thanks Pearl......good link 0_0
All is not lost Kenora! After a gentle wash in the detergent I usually use for my quilts the glue did indeed all come out, my fabric pieces drying nice and soft so I have happily gone ahead and basted my 70 x 60ish quilt. I did it in conjunction with the board basting method and I couldn't resist throwing a few pins in as well because I'm such a worrier! I am now waiting for my new ruler foot for the Juki to arrive before I can start quilting but as the glue has to be completely dry and we have a couple of stinking hot days coming up, I'm quite happy to wait for the foot. Still tossing up whether I should do the usual grid stitching that I do to stabilise my quilts before quilting.....not sure that it is needed with this one...hmmmmmm
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

Kenora

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2017, 22:43:43 PM »
All is not lost Kenora!

Glad to hear it, Ruby - keep up the good work. :D
Minding my P's & Q's in Portreath

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2017, 04:44:44 AM »
So it seems my Bernina (why am I using the Bernina when I love my Juki? read on.) doesn't like sewing through the glue baste.....dragged at my stitches, got stuck in some spots and generally made a nightmare of it. It took me a few minutes (equivalent to about a fr%##@@ mile of stitching) before I realised it was not going to improve. To make matters worse, I couldn't unpick the stitching...it was stuck tight and mean. I've only had one choice besides binning the whole wretched quilt and that is to dunk it in a bath of warm water to dissolve the glue and then unpick the stitches as they loosen. And that's what I've spent the last hour and a half doing. I don't think the top has frayed too badly...I was as gentle as I could be with it...it remains to be seen once the 3 pieces are dried whether it is at all salvageable and I can iron and re-baste (with pins this time). :'(

And to make matters even worse, I've damaged the Juki by lowering the needlebar whilst the ruler foot was still up. And you know how that happened????  I was fri@@#$%ing putting a sticker on the Juki just above the needle down button to remind me to not lower it whilst the foot is still up.........and I ##@@%&& bumped the wretched button whilst sticking the sticker on......BAM....broken machine.......won't be back from repair shop until well into January. :'( :'(

I'm feeling wretched, despondent and mightily fed up. :angry:
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!

Deafoldbat

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2017, 19:12:43 PM »
Life's b****r sometimes! Why does it always take 10 times longer to undo something than it does to do it?
Maybe you better go and watch the cricket and cheer yourself up :devil:

Kenora

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2017, 22:40:31 PM »
Oh Ruby - you're not having a very good time at the moment, are you? I'm sorry to hear about your Juki - it's sod's law in operation again. :S

Sounds as though the glue experiment is over. Thanks for being the guinea pig on this one - you've saved those of us who were considering using glue a whole lot of hassle and unpicking, and for that we'll be eternally grateful. :) I've got a Bernina which I use for most of my quilting, so I suspect it would have refused to play ball too.
Minding my P's & Q's in Portreath

rubywishes

Re: Elmers Washable School Glue
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2017, 09:36:58 AM »
Kenora, there are so many quilters who successfully use the glue....I'm just the unlucky bunny who's had a bad experience with it.

Who knows....it could've even been something about how I used the glue (my error), or even my forgetting how to set my Bernina up for fmq...it's been so long since I used it...but anyway I look at it.....my fault or not......I won't try the glue again. But so many people love it I'd say try for yourself but make sure your test sandwich is not only done for testing washability but also done for you to test how your machine likes it.  Perhaps my Juki  :'( would've been fine with it...who knows but the boat has sailed as far as I'm concerned, I'm back to my 500 quilting safety pins.

I don't want to discourage others from trying it...( do read up on it in the forums etc to make up your own minds...plenty of happy results) but I did feel obligated to let you know of my experience.
Juki TL2010Q, Juki DX7,  Singers: 1917 27K treadle (aka Gertie), 1957 99k (aka Vincent), 1951 99k knee lever (aka Shirley), 1950 99k handcrank (aka Alice), 1927 28K (aka Dora), 1947 201K treadle with motor conversion (aka Livvy)
....and the dusting and vacuming can wait!