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Vintage industrial machine needles?

LeilaMay

Vintage industrial machine needles?
« on: January 08, 2018, 17:38:11 PM »
I've got a vintage Singer box of needles - round shank, class 16 x 231 no. 16

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Would these have been or an industrial machine? Do they have a current use?

leila  :)
Singers - 28K, 66K, 99K, 201K - all manual. Singers 221K (2 of 'em), 319K and 401G - electric. Bernina 730 Record, Elna Grasshopper, Husqvana ~~, Grain chainstitch toy machine, most of a Guhl & Harbeck chain stitch machine called Lyra. And a Bernina under refurbishment for sale. That's all!  :)

Roger

Re: Vintage industrial machine needles?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 20:10:30 PM »
They seem to be currently used and still in production:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beckert-Industrial-Machine-Needles-Brother/dp/B01I8GDQE4

They are used by light medium industrial machines like the 96k apparently. According to Amazon anyway:)
A bit of a vintage sewing machine nut! Singers: 500a, 401g, 48k Elnas: lotus SP & grasshopper, Bernina 530-2 F+R 504, Pfaff 30, Cresta T-132

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Re: Vintage industrial machine needles?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 22:10:01 PM »
These are still the most common "industrial" size (system or class is proably a better term). My Phoenix takes these needles, it's a domestic machine from 50s. There are lots of needle systems, industrial or not, but they if someone just sais "industrial" this is the type. 1738, DBx1, 16x31,..., are the same needles. I have no idea why these needles are listed under at least six different numbers.

LeilaMay

Re: Vintage industrial machine needles?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 10:11:46 AM »
Thank you both :)

Arrow - if you ever any - I've got LOADS!  :)
Singers - 28K, 66K, 99K, 201K - all manual. Singers 221K (2 of 'em), 319K and 401G - electric. Bernina 730 Record, Elna Grasshopper, Husqvana ~~, Grain chainstitch toy machine, most of a Guhl & Harbeck chain stitch machine called Lyra. And a Bernina under refurbishment for sale. That's all!  :)

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Re: Vintage industrial machine needles?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 14:21:10 PM »
I need to order some needles for my Phoenix. I have a few packages of a low priced brand but they are no good. They snap the thread and it took me a while to discover it was the needles. I shall have to stick to more reputable brands. This brand seem all fine in the large sizes (20 and 22), but for the regular sewing they are too crudely made. I have found Schmetz in size 19, but most commonly I think 12 to 18 is the most used size? I'm talking too much, but 16 is spot on what I need.

LeilaMay

Re: Vintage industrial machine needles?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 14:24:37 PM »
I'l PM you - I have everso-many  :)
Singers - 28K, 66K, 99K, 201K - all manual. Singers 221K (2 of 'em), 319K and 401G - electric. Bernina 730 Record, Elna Grasshopper, Husqvana ~~, Grain chainstitch toy machine, most of a Guhl & Harbeck chain stitch machine called Lyra. And a Bernina under refurbishment for sale. That's all!  :)