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Peeved... repair quotes

Roger

Peeved... repair quotes
« on: January 28, 2018, 11:43:26 AM »
Hi all,

Just approached a gent about getting my 95k40 electrics looked at and was somewhat niffed by the response...

He went straight to it’ll need a new motor and pedal... admittedly not a bad price... for a domestic motor... I have a good mind to accept the quote... after all it’s extremely reasonable for a new clutch motor. But I don’t want a new motor and the whole response looks professional but lazy...

I’m probably unduly irked because I’m familiar with the machine...

Bah!
A bit of a vintage sewing machine nut! Singers: 500a, 401g, 48k Elnas: lotus SP & grasshopper, Bernina 530-2 F+R 504, Pfaff 30, Cresta T-132

LeilaMay

Re: Peeved... repair quotes
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 12:21:42 PM »
Hvae you made contact with Helen Howes - her OH is the electrical person of choice :)
Singers - 28K, 66K, 99K, 201K - all manual. Singers 221K (2 of 'em), 319K and 401G - electric. Bernina 730 Record, Elna Grasshopper, Husqvana ~~, Grain chainstitch toy machine, most of a Guhl & Harbeck chain stitch machine called Lyra. And a Bernina under refurbishment for sale. That's all!  :)

Greybird

Re: Peeved... repair quotes
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 12:48:04 PM »
This is similar to a response I got from a repairer a few years ago. I was having problems, which were obviously electrical, with my lovely old Husqvarna 190. He charged me a fat fee for supposedly investigating it and told me it was caused by my having folded the foot cable too close to the piece that plugs into the machine and broken it inside. I didn't think I had, but bought a new foot pedal anyway. It didn't put it right and eventually another repairer found that it was the socket inside the machine that was faulty - and sadly no new part was available for it. He charged me only a nominal £10 for his time which I thought was very fair. I don't believe the first one had done anything at all.

Roger

Re: Peeved... repair quotes
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 15:01:36 PM »
@greybird that’s where I feel this enquiry is going...

Thanks @LeilaMay I normally would go straight to Helen... but because this is an industrial I’m having trouble getting it to them.
A bit of a vintage sewing machine nut! Singers: 500a, 401g, 48k Elnas: lotus SP & grasshopper, Bernina 530-2 F+R 504, Pfaff 30, Cresta T-132

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Re: Peeved... repair quotes
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 16:37:29 PM »
I know some repair shops almost force new replacement parts if it's an easy way out. Some of the old motors had their advantages, and you might want to search up someone who cares enough to bother. I have hardly worked on machines with the stronger clutch motors, just tried a few out, so I can't really recommend anything in particular. Perhaps you can find new motor behaving much better at a reasonable price.

In the past I have gone through a few weird things like this; I go and look for someone who are able and willing to take a look at my bike, it has a 5 speed hub that doesn't shift properly. The bike is less than a year old and not used much.  I'm told it doesn't need anything, just wash the bike and oil wires and chain, to keep on using it as long as it runs and shifts.  I'm told to buy a new bike or replacement wheel with  a gear hub when needed, (there are 7 and 9 speeds hubs if I like an improvement). Very annoying thing, in the leaflet that came with the bike it said the hub needs service after a certain amount of kilometers. I end up going home, cleaned and oiled best I can, polish parts, go over everyting. I'm suggested all kinds of things by people around me; to add some oil to the inners of the hub where the shifter cable enters; to never use oil on greased hubs; to use WD40 to loosen up the old grease; never to use anything lighter than two stroke motor oil,... I go on for years like this with very conflicting advice every which way, and I'm really not getting anywhere. For some reason this bike was never thrown away, but over the years I had several bikes along side it.

Then I get an old 1950s bike I take a liking too, lots of work to tighten spokes and sort out the bottom crank bearings. I happen to find two repair guys who bothers to take a look at it. The gear hub has 3 speeds and an oil cap. I add oil and things shifts and run better than any of my gears have. The repairs and fix ups happen gradually and the bike firms up surprisingly well.

I'm thinking there's a chance my 5 speed hub can improve, by then it's been standing in a shed at the summer cottage for years and I need a bike there.  I take it home, add a teflon enhanced oil to the hub. It does run and shift, but it turns out inner wire has a split wire inside the outer cable, not easily detected and probably has been like that for years. The wire gets replaced, along with new tires and inner tubes, the old bike turns out to be nicer than I ever could rememer it did. The gears behave flawlessly and still does.

To sum it up; if I just had come to the right guy who was willing to do the job, it all would have been sorted out years ago. There were nothing really wrong with the hubs or the parts to begin with, they needed oil, cleaning, a new gear wire, all just basic maintanance.

I have had this happen a few times, with bikes as well as a sewing machine. Now I only trust my self when it comes to judging what's worth a repair and what's not. I used to listen to the expert, but when you have met an older guy who could help but just didn't want to do the job; other guys who didn't want to work on anything but the bikes they had sold within the last three years,... I don't trust anybody anymore. I have become very stubborn and peristent if I have an old bike I like   >:) 

An old item needs a bit of an investment to run again, a bit of time and energy, sometimes a bit of money in replacement parts. It can be well worth it, and I know you know this well. Some items I like to keep as original as possible. When all parts are there and they are repairable and working well, it's a shame to just to throw them out. Machines that's deliberately run hard and  soon just exposed off it's different. Some are resilient enough to surprise.
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