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How old is stuff in your freezer?

Bodgeitandscarper

How old is stuff in your freezer?
« on: February 06, 2018, 12:29:08 PM »
The "Quote of the Day" thread and it's mention of chest freezers reminded me of emptying my late mum's freezer - some of the stuff had been lurking in the bottom of it for years, for example, corn on the cob from 1995 with the oldest being a bag of frozen couscous from 1994, so 23 years old!!  No wonder it was still there, I can't imagine either of my parents ever eating it!


sewingj

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 12:45:01 PM »
Bodgeit - I can`t beat you on age but when I came to empty my father`s freezer it was full of unidentified bags of leftovers and a huge amount of fish (I discovered that he bought the same amount every week irrespective of whether or not he had eaten any!)
I`m usually fairly relaxed about things like "best before" dates but I binned everything!

Efemera

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 12:51:27 PM »
My freezer is about 18” square so not a lot of room...I’ve just shuffled stuff about and chucked some stuff that’s been there since Dec 16

Roger

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 13:16:05 PM »
My sister and her hubby inherited his mums old farmhouse.... they found 2 chest freezers... which were almost archaeological... apparently they had genuine 80s food in them!

I phoned her one night and she said they were having a lovely prawn curry... you could hear her thinking ‘dear where did these prawns come from?’ Laughter from the background ‘they’re vintage ones from the freezer’... apparently they had loads of artic roll too!
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Lowena

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 13:31:25 PM »
We have a small under the counter freezer. We empty and defrost it twice a year so nothing is ever more than 6 months old. We are doing it this week before we go away...so......it's sweetcorn with everything for dinner  :D
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justpottering

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 15:26:38 PM »
My freezer rarely has out of date stuff in it but when I decide it needs a sort out I often find things and think why did I ever keep/ buy that and get rid of it  0_0
Of course the very bottom which I can't reach has odd peas and bits of fruit / veg that have fallen out of their bags
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Tamnymore

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 15:33:57 PM »
Well I don't have a freezer (too many bad experiences with fridge freezers failing hence we just have a larder fridge). So you won't get any ice in your gin and tonic round my place. Come to think of it you won't get any gin or any tonic either but I can chill you a nice beer!
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Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 15:58:26 PM »
In tight containers I keep things for up to a year, but most things are used within a few weeks. Fish keeps well frozen. My father buys several kilos of fish from a local fisher man now and then. It's a longer drive and it's not like the regular grocery store. The fish he cleans and cuts is much better quality than most things I can find in stores. The quality is the best even after a couple of months in the freezer. It doesn't have a chance to get much older than that.

On TV a couple of months ago there were a scientist and a food safety specialist who had found preserves from the late 1940s. The glass was opened, it was some kind of dinner, they reheated it and it tasted acceptable to the test panel. One of the guys ate a full plate of it, and his digestion was all fine the day after. It was tested in the laboratory as well and came out fine. The consistency had become a bit less firm than it normally would have been. The weirdest story ever. Who had kept those glasses for all these year they didn't say.  They had still food stamps in those days.

The experts advice was that food can keep for a very long time in freezers and sealed glasses or tins. They might not be top quality taste wise, but most of the nutrition is still there. The vitamins and nutrients that doesn't keep long is deterirated in tin cans to begin with.





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Madame Cholet

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 16:57:31 PM »
In tight containers I keep things for up to a year, but most things are used within a few weeks. Fish keeps well frozen. My father buys several kilos of fish from a local fisher man now and then. It's a longer drive and it's not like the regular grocery store. The fish he cleans and cuts is much better quality than most things I can find in stores. The quality is the best even after a couple of months in the freezer. It doesn't have a chance to get much older than that.

On TV a couple of months ago there were a scientist and a food safety specialist who had found preserves from the late 1940s. The glass was opened, it was some kind of dinner, they reheated it and it tasted acceptable to the test panel. One of the guys ate a full plate of it, and his digestion was all fine the day after. It was tested in the laboratory as well and came out fine. The consistency had become a bit less firm than it normally would have been. The weirdest story ever. Who had kept those glasses for all these year they didn't say.  They had still food stamps in those days.

The experts advice was that food can keep for a very long time in freezers and sealed glasses or tins. They might not be top quality taste wise, but most of the nutrition is still there. The vitamins and nutrients that doesn't keep long is deterirated in tin cans to begin with.

That's really interesting, eating food preserved in the 1940s. I wonder about the newer style tin cans, the ones with the ring pull and peel back lids, and how they compare with the older, traditional style of tin can that have to be opened with a tin opener - would they preserve food for as long? How is the peel-back lid sealed? Is it just thinner metal, or is there some kind of layer of sealing rubber or plastic? Sorry peeps but I think about these things!! I mean, in an apocalyptic scenario, for just how long would my easy-open tins of Heinz beans survive??
... regarding elderly foodstuffs though I recently unpacked a box of stuff that had lain forgotten in the loft in my old house, and inside it I found a box of chocolates, a box of Toffifee sweets, and a big bar of Cadbury's chocolate, from Christmas 2002, unwrapped by me but not scoffed and rounded up and put away and banished from memory. No I've not eaten them. The Cadbury's chocolate bar would be the old recipe Cadburys, from before Hershey's took the company over and made it inedible. Should I put it on ebay for a collector to buy it? Or is there a law against that kind of thing??  :S :fish:

I hesitated to post this as it just makes me sound weird.
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Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 17:18:36 PM »
LOL  0_0

I think the peel back lids should be fine. They might be a bit more prone to hits and dents. It  might not be as new as it seems, the old sardine tins had a roll back type of lid, and each tin came with a key under to open it. I haven't thought of those in years until you mention it now. I'm guessing the metal are cut half way into the surface in some how.

I'm side tracking a bit, but the 1940s dinner was something in the direction of meat balls in gravy, preserved in this type of glass. It's all glass and the glass lid has a rubber sealing ring and tightens with the threaded aluminium ring on top. I'm sure you have something similar in the UK.

For the tins we get to day, they are lined with a type of plastic to prevent rust and reactions between food and metal. IT works well, the problem is the plastic contains bisfenol and ftalats which isn't exactly a good replacement for vitamin C. It seeps into the food and our blood stream. People who eat a lot of prepared foods packed in plastics and tins tend to have more of this in their body. Skin creams and lotions isn't much better. The freezer is a pluss this way, so was the old glass type perservation containers.

I don't think there is a law aginst selling old packaging. I once bought a card board package of loose black tea, decades too old. I regret emtying out the tea since it doesn't go bad in the same way as other foods. I still have the box of ABC tea on the shelf.
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Madame Cholet

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 17:24:05 PM »
Photographic evidence:



They were from 2003, not 2002. And it is a box of biccies, not chocs. And there is a chocolate orange.
What should I do with them?!
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Vegegrow

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 18:40:15 PM »
Does Chocolate freeze well... >< don't know Madame Cholet .. but since you cook those amazing cakes on the Birthday thread you should be an expert... as for frozen food... I'm sure I have plums that are a good few years +++ old and since they go into crumbles etc they still taste amazing..
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Fiona M

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 20:05:38 PM »
At Christmas I cooked a gammon joint in Cola, a la Nigella Lawson.  To my certain knowledge it had been at the bottom of our chest freezer for at least 5 years and possibly longer.  :[
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Kenora

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 22:12:44 PM »
I have always grown a lot of fruit and veg in the garden, and have frozen the surplus each year. Each bag is carefully labelled but there's obviously no use-by date on them. We just use them up in the right order as much as we can. I'm a great believer in smelling and tasting something before I eat it - if it smells or tastes "wrong" it goes out. We never had sell-by or use-by dates in years gone by - we just used common sense - something much lacking these days I fear.  :S
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Lowena

Re: How old is stuff in your freezer?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 08:53:43 AM »
'Fraid I can't agree @Kenora I stick assiduously to all sell by and eat by dates. Things are manufactured and stored differently these days and they have those dates for a reason. I dare say you're  right though, it's probably  my OCD kicking in  :D
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