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The television thread

UttaRetch

The television thread
« on: April 06, 2017, 13:36:38 PM »
I thought I would start a thread on interesting television. 

This week, I watched Roof racks and hatchbacks which looked at the history of the family car, and yesterday saw Marilyn Munroe: auction of a lifetime.  You can see a repeat of this tonight on 4Seven at 23:05, but you can catch up with either programme on their respective 'player' services.

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What goes around comes around.

Francesca

Re: The television thread
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 13:38:02 PM »
I've been watching This Is England the TV shows that follow on from the film.

Honesty, most underrated piece of television ever. Yes I know it has a BAFTA but I'm surprised it took me so long to watch, and it seems so few people have. Probably the best piece of television I have watched this decade.

UttaRetch

Re: The television thread
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 13:51:16 PM »
I think I have been put off by the whole premise, but I should at least give it a go rather than condemn something I haven't seen.
What goes around comes around.

Francesca

Re: The television thread
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 15:49:50 PM »
I think I have been put off by the whole premise, but I should at least give it a go rather than condemn something I haven't seen.

The premise, how so?

It's an interesting show. The film gives it context. But really it is just a drama about a group of people and how they go through their lives. There are some pretty disturbing scenes. I'm not really a fan of certain types of "drama" put into TV shows for shock factor, however I found that in this story it was entirely justified and worked well into the plot and definitely not just for the shock value, if that makes sense.

UttaRetch

Re: The television thread
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 16:50:16 PM »
Skinhead culture and racism.  :devil: I don't always need to be reminded about the stupidity that goes on in the world.  :(
What goes around comes around.

Francesca

Re: The television thread
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 17:30:07 PM »
Skinhead culture and racism.  :devil: I don't always need to be reminded about the stupidity that goes on in the world.  :(

That is the plot of the film. I think it's a very interesting portrayal. I think I felt the same as you but the interesting thing about it is that it portrays what skinheads were originally (not racist, just a subculture based on particular fashion and music. In fact, most of the music that defined the subculture was from black artists...) before the racist element became part of the culture. Before watching I too had thought that all skinheads = racists, but apparently not. It was something that stemmed from the culture later.

This tidbit from Wiki is interesting:

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The first skins were working class youth motivated by an expression of alternative values, rejecting both 1950s austerity and conservatism and the more middle class or bourgeois 1960s peace and love ethos and hippie movement. Skinheads were instead drawn towards more working class outsider cultures, incorporating elements of mod fashion and black music and fashion, especially from Jamaican rude boys. Both first and second generation skins were influenced by the heavy, repetitive rhythms of dub, as well as ska, rocksteady, reggae, and African-American soul music.

But if you're not interested in that you can just jump straight into the TV show. You will lack some context of the character development in the film, but probably pick it up quickly and it has little to do with the plot of the film.
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Lowena

Re: The television thread
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 17:33:58 PM »
I watch all serious police dramas ( Vera, Prime Suspect and the like ) Property shows ( Location, Grand Designs ) Relocations abroad ( Place in the Sun etc ) SCD,GBBO,Masterchef and the like.....and, I never miss Pointless ( which I record )
Never watch X Factor type programmes, Soaps, "Real Life" Dramas ( This is England, The Bailiffs are coming, Shannon Matthews etc ) or anything to do with music  :flower:
Oh... and I made a conscious decision never to watch the News or political programmes  ... I know how I think, feel, vote and don't need high blood pressure  :D
Triumph of hope over experience :D

UttaRetch

Re: The television thread
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 19:48:19 PM »
@Fran: I know the 'sub-culture' of skinheads but as a black person who grew up in the 70's, they represented a very threatening time.  None of this ever goes away and today we have equally troubling times from not so obvious aggressors.  :(
What goes around comes around.

Francesca

Re: The television thread
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 20:07:35 PM »
@Fran: I know the 'sub-culture' of skinheads but as a black person who grew up in the 70's, they represented a very threatening time.  None of this ever goes away and today we have equally troubling times from not so obvious aggressors.  :(

Yeah, I understand how that would make you feel. By the time the TV show comes around they're not really part of the sub culture any more. Perhaps more so in the first part of the first series but by the end of that series there's not a Doc Marten in sight.

I am enjoying the later series set in '90 as it's interesting for me to start seeing things I recognise in terms of the decor, music, fashion. And the main character's Mum looks like my Mum did then, haha!
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maliw

Re: The television thread
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 20:17:18 PM »
I watch a lot of the history stuff, some police dramas, some of the nature programmes and I love the old comedy ones, still good for a laugh. Like you Lowena I don't watch the news very often, I think certain stations are biased and I don't want to spend the evening seething at some of the things you see/hear. At the moment our TV is off and I've discovered the delight of the mute button especially during the advert breaks.
At leisure on the leisure penninsula

Vegegrow

Re: The television thread
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2017, 20:32:07 PM »
DH and I have similar and diverse viewing habits.. which makes life interesting as there's only one TV in the house.. we both watch stuff like Vera and Prime suspect .. but I struggle with dramas that last for weeks and weeks.. I really can't be bothered hence I will listen to things like Broadchurch while its on  and read on here instead... essential viewing for us is Only Connect... we often tape Pointless Celebrities  we watch lots of Channel and BBC 4.. and Lots of Music  we tape lots of history and Archaeology programmes.. I do miss TimeTeam ... DH hates with a passion any reality programmes anything farming / Gardening related.. he reckons if he  farms 12+ hours a day he doesn't need to watch it on TV.... :D
"The only place where housework comes before needlework is in the dictionary." ~Mary Kurtz

Lollipop

Re: The television thread
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 21:07:24 PM »
I seem to watch a lot of Peppa Pig, Ben and Holly and the like with the littlest two and the awful Disney pre-teen shows that my 8 year old granddaughter loves. Then there's the football, golf, Sky Sports News etc etc..... In the rare moments I have the remote I love the crime dramas like Broadchurch and shows like Good Wife, Grantchester, Wallander which I record and watch when I'm home alone!
Was Sewnanny

Vegegrow

Re: The television thread
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 21:21:06 PM »
I can sing lots of children's TV theme tunes from the very late 1980's and 1990's  if only it would come up as a specialist subject on Master Mind/ University Challenge or Pointless I would win 0_0

Sharkey and George Crime busters of the sea
Sharkey and George clear up any mystery :ninja:
"The only place where housework comes before needlework is in the dictionary." ~Mary Kurtz

Francesca

Re: The television thread
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 21:26:00 PM »
I can sing lots of children's TV theme tunes from the very late 1980's and 1990's  if only it would come up as a specialist subject on Master Mind/ University Challenge or Pointless I would win 0_0

Sharkey and George Crime busters of the sea
Sharkey and George clear up any mystery :ninja:

How about Budgie? Or Wizadora  0_0

UttaRetch

Re: The television thread
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2017, 08:22:23 AM »
I love the crime dramas like Broadchurch and shows like Good Wife, Grantchester, Wallander ...

I don't watch 'police procedurals' - too grim - or 'Scandi noir' - can't cope with the beastly subtitles, but I did enjoy Grantchester.  I never got into the 'Good wife', but am making a point of watching the 'Good fight' which is a spin off that started two weeks' ago.

I love the 'property' shows and my guilty pleasure is 'Homes under the hammer'.  I also like history, science, culture and social history.  I don't watch the news, but I do like to be informed about what is going on in the world and rely on the radio.  I stopped reading serious newspapers over 20 years ago, but will flick through the freebies.
What goes around comes around.