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The Emporia => Patchwork & Quilting ... Welcome to the Darkside => Topic started by: wrenkins on June 10, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
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Today I will be making HSTs.
The more accomplished among you will be rolling eyes and saying "so what?"
Well here's what...I've never done them before. :S
I'm using a funny wee method I came across so I've had my "hard sum" head on working out what my finished size will be.
It's the non-seasonal side of my sis-in-law's table runner using a variation of May's BOM.
Wish me luck. :|
ps is it absolutely essential to starch...I'm aware of bias stretch and so on.
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Have fun...
There are many ways to make HST's from the traditional, to the new (to me) one that I learned last month (as shown in May's BOM )
Which method will you be using ?
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I found a method which entails sewing two squares RST all the way round and then cutting in four across the diagonals. It looked quite neat to me but then don't forget...I know no better! -<
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That's not how I would do it but good luck. I don't like having to draw on every square, so I won't be trying Imi's new way either.
I just line up the squares ( not too many at a time ) and cut then diagonally - then sew in pairs.
I never starch anything.
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I've never starched either but then I've never done triangles. It seems a lot of people use it. I'll give it a go and see if it makes any difference.
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Please let us know if it does
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Wrenkins, starch is optional, not necessary. It can be helpful to keep your fabric/blocks from stretching particularly when you are going to be dealing with bias edges which can be difficult to manage if you don't handle them carefully. But do be mindful that too much starch can make things awkward to. Finding your own preferred method for making HST's might take you a few "goes"....try some different methods and while practising them always pretend you need bigger HST's than you really need......that way you have plenty of trimming room to cut your HST down to the perfect size. :)
You'll be whacking 'em out in no time with not a second thought to it!!!!
:o gasp...Lowie...you cut the squares into triangles and then sew them together......you actually voluntarily cut and sew triangles together......really? I pay homage to you....Lordie, even the promise of a very fine Shiraz would not see me happily cut and sew triangles....eek....shudder....it's all coming back to me......eyes misting over, perspiration beading my forehead.......
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Yep, 'fraid so Rubes..... I find it soothing :D I do think of you though, every time anyone mentions hst :devil:
Rubes is right, Wrenkie, try different methods until you find your fave, cut them bigger and... enjoy; they're so useful and versitile
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I found a method which entails sewing two squares RST all the way round and then cutting in four across the diagonals.
That is making quarter square triangles, not half square triangles.
The difference is that HSTs have two sides cut with the grain and one side on the diagonal. SQTs have one side cut on the grain and two on the diagonal - and overall is a little less stable than a HST. Could be useful though if you are playing with stripes and plaids.
Also if you are making an on-point design and need setting triangles it's better to use QSTs so that the on-grain sides are parallel to the edges of the quilt; but you wouldn't use a stitch and cut method for making setting triangles.
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That's not how I would do it but good luck. I don't like having to draw on every square, so I won't be trying Imi's new way either.
I just line up the squares ( not too many at a time ) and cut then diagonally - then sew in pairs.
I never starch anything.
Me too.
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You're right of course Brenda. I was working on the theory that half the square was a triangle. Not how it was constructed. :|
Oh blimey. I knew I should have stuck to log cabin! :[
So far they look ok. As for stability...we'll see.
I thought the worst bit was going to be looking at fabric that really isn't my thing. (Purple :x)
The other good news is that I have given myself plenty of scope for trimming. I'll crack on and see how it goes.
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I can't be bothered with squares and cutting them up after sewing. I chop into triangles and chain piece for ages until the are all done. Much easier and I waste less as my sa are spot on.
I never use starch, I'm just careful with my bias edges!
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Yes the trimming was a bit of a faff but until I'm sure what I'm doing I'll do what makes sense to me.
I haven't done any P or Q in about twenty years and I've just bought a new machine so it's all a bit WWAAHH at the minute. When my bobbin ran out I sat and looked blankly trying to remember what to do. -<
My old machine is calling to me!!!! 0_0
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HST 's
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QST's
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As far as I am aware.
And Wrenkies method, as far as i recall, will yield 4 HST's per 1 matched pair of squares....
Of course if you then take 2 of the resultant HST's put them right sides together pattern to plain, sew and cut again you get QST's
Maybe I should do a tut on all the different methods of making HST's ??!
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I can't be bothered with squares and cutting them up after sewing. I chop into triangles and chain piece for ages until the are all done. Much easier and I waste less as my sa are spot on.
I never use starch, I'm just careful with my bias edges!
Same here. 'Quick' methods aren't always the best methods. Also, if using scraps, you get more variety, not all fabric A with fabric B.
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And Wrenkies method, as far as i recall, will yield 4 HST's per 1 matched pair of squares....
Of course if you then take 2 of the resultant HST's put them right sides together pattern to plain, sew and cut again you get QST's
The difference between HSTs and QSTs is not how they are re-assembled, it's how they are cut.
You could assemble 4 HST to make a square with diagonal cuts on the outside or you could assemble 4 QSTs to make a square with the stable on-grain cuts to the outside.
Likewise you could pair two HSTs to make a square with the on grain cuts around the outside or you could pair two QSTs with with the stretchy diagonal cuts on the outside.
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Wrenkins' head fell off. :[
However...her table runner is taking shape. 0_0
I'm trying to improve my accuracy and this method looked as if it might fit the bill. If I was using all different fabrics then the chained triangles would probably work better for randomness.
So far so good. I haven't used any starch mostly because I have none but I can clearly see the pattern which was my main concern.
All I have to do now is work out how to sew C*******s Trees for t'other side -<
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The difference between HSTs and QSTs is not how they are re-assembled, it's how they are cut.
Well that's me told!
You could assemble 4 HST to make a square with diagonal cuts on the outside or you could assemble 4 QSTs to make a square with the stable on-grain cuts to the outside.
Likewise you could pair two HSTs to make a square with the on grain cuts around the outside or you could pair two QSTs with with the stretchy diagonal cuts on the outside.
and Imi's head blew off and gently rolled down to join Wrenkies!!
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and Imi's head blew off and gently rolled down to join Wrenkies!!
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Clunk......and there goes my noggin too! Pass the aspirin please!
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As we all know there are no quilt police out there, but seriously, if you join pairs of QSTs to make small squares, by whatever method, you will have the diagonal cuts on all four sides and that will make things more difficult when you sew those squares to other pieces.
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The good news is they're going together ok. Phew! I'm being very careful with my stretchy edges but it's so far so good.
There are a couple of slight dimply bits where my SA went squinty but not to bad for a first effort. I'm amazed at the accuracy of my points too. :o
I hope she likes it after all this. -<