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Singer 431g

Bodgeitandscarper

Singer 431g
« on: April 08, 2024, 14:01:27 PM »
I've just had my 431g delivered.  :dance:

It doesn't work  :(  Not at all  :(  No power.  Can't turn the wheel. 

I knew this was a possibility, but...

So I'm about to have fun delving into it's innards, and possibly looking for a replacement motor.

It's rather nice though  :)

Sheilago

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2024, 17:08:29 PM »
Oh dear, but at least you know how to look at the innards. I wouldn’t have a clue and as to fitting a new motor!…

Bodgeitandscarper

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2024, 21:05:16 PM »
It would be nice if I could get the motor out - it appears to be jammed solid.

Bill

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2024, 10:41:51 AM »
WD40, blow torch and a crow bar will move anything  :thumb:
Bernina 570QE (Bernie)     1937 Singer 201k (sally)
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Bodgeitandscarper

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2024, 16:04:00 PM »
I've found the reason nothing moved...

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I also found that it does have power to the lamp - after I actually put a bulb in  :S

The motor still doesn't do anything, and I can't get it out despite watching a couple of videos - it's just stuck fast.  I've tried all sorts, including hair drier for heat and a screwdriver to lever (note, @Bill , not a blow torch or crow bar) and I've managed to crack the housing slightly, only slightly!.
It's currently (hopefully) soaking up some WD40, but I feel I may have to order some Plusgas...

KayK

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2024, 17:25:44 PM »
I've had two of these machines, and when they work they are brilliant!  Best of luck with the fixing of!
I have learnt by my mistakes: Sewing machines now are Bernina 720, Bernina 1008, Bernina 801 from 1981, Brother overlocker, ancient but works well

Lachica

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2024, 17:45:45 PM »
Urgghhhh! Well spotted!
Mary
2020 stash: not gonna count, not gonna feel guilty.

Bodgeitandscarper

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2024, 13:12:48 PM »
Finally I've got the motor out - a spark plug socket was just the right diameter to sit on the top edge and be bashed with a hammer gently tapped with a small hammer.
Unfortunately, I'm not convinced it's in very good shape.  I'm about to send it off to SewLincs to see what he thinks.

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LeilaMay

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2024, 09:21:20 AM »
Maybe it just needs a capacitor change? Good luck with it - they are lovely if they go well aren't they?
Leila
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Bodgeitandscarper

Re: Singer 431g
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2024, 11:14:04 AM »
@LeilaMay I'm really hoping it will topstitch the edges of bags I make, that free arm would be sooo much easier than turning bags inside out and fiddling then round.  It does seem to stitch beautifully by just turning the handwheel.