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Displaying photos

So Chic

Displaying photos
« on: August 19, 2019, 16:22:53 PM »
I have just looked at the Jalie top made by Fiona M and she is on her side and not upright.  I've noticed that some but not all photos also display this way, is there any way of changing it so that people are upright?
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Francesca

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2019, 16:39:48 PM »
If the uploader uploads an image that is the right way up it'll be displayed as such.

Note, systems like iPads and some phones will display photos upright even when the original source file is not correctly orientated.

The forum just displays the images as they are uploaded.
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Fiona M

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2019, 17:20:40 PM »
If the uploader uploads an image that is the right way up it'll be displayed as such.

Note, systems like iPads and some phones will display photos upright even when the original source file is not correctly orientated.

The forum just displays the images as they are uploaded.
I don’t understand this either, and rather resent being told I am somehow to blame!
I only take photos one way up, and upload them from the phone to the forum.  The phone remains ‘the right way up’ throughout the entire process, and on initially uploading to the thread the photo appears the right way up? so I fail to see how they can suddenly become ‘incorrectly orientated’ when the thread is closed and then revisited. 
There is no option on my phone to change the orientation of a photo.
However, when I click on the sideways image, it appears the right way up again - also the case with other people’s sideways images.
I will also say that this is the only website on which I experience this phenomenon!
« Last Edit: August 19, 2019, 17:23:04 PM by Fiona M »

Francesca

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2019, 18:24:41 PM »
I can guarantee you there is absolutely nothing that our forum can do, or is able to do, to turn your photos the incorrect way round. Our system really isn't smart enough to do anything like that. It takes the source picture, and it uploads it.

Most phones and devices are "smart" enough to essentially decide which way to display a picture based on the data from the internal accelerometer. Therefore even if the image is recorded/saved to the phone at its most basic in an incorrect orientation, the internal gallery app or display will orient it to match the accelerometer information. In more modern desktop machines and OS's this is also possible, and increasingly on many other sites too which process images with more smart technology than we have.

I can assure you there is nothing written in our forum software to turn pictures any different orientation.
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Bodgeitandscarper

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2019, 19:21:57 PM »
I find photos taken on my phone appear sideways on here.  I do however always up load them to Pixlr to resize them and that shows them sideways too, so I rotate them in there. 
Interestingly, if I edit a pic on my phone, then save it, then upload it, it's the right way up.  Nope, no idea why.

Fiona M

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2019, 19:37:30 PM »
Interestingly, if I edit a pic on my phone, then save it, then upload it, it's the right way up.  Nope, no idea why.
Thanks, I'll try that.  :toast:

Francesca

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2019, 19:50:53 PM »
Similar to what I said above, it's probably because once you open the image in an editor and resave it, you're saving the base picture file as oriented in line with the accelerometer data. I expect Pixlr also has a similar set up to us where it doesn't do any sort of manipulation to the image before upload (obviously being an editor itself it probably knows you want the base image file uploaded with no changes) so it'll show the same in Pixlr.
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Francesca

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2019, 19:59:33 PM »
I downloaded FionaM's photograph from the Jalie thread as an example and inspected the EXIF data. It's marked as Orientation 6 which as you can see from the diagram I include of image mappings, is on its side. Any software that manipulates images for upload will be taking the orientation and subtracting one to mimic the desired orientation. Unfortunately SMF base image software does not manipulate the image in this way like other sites might.



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BrendaP

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2019, 23:17:00 PM »
Whilst I don't fully understand the techie stuff that Francesca has explained I do know that if I take a photo on my phone and email it to myself it appears to be the right way up, but then when I upload to TSP it is usually (always?) sideways on the forum but if I take it into iPhoto or Photos (on Mac) and then export it again, without doing any other editing, when it's uploaded to TSP it appears the right way up.
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Lachica

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2019, 07:26:51 AM »
I find the same as @BrendaP with both  iPad and phone. I always use my iPad in landscape format & think it's designed for portrait format but that doesn't explain why I take photos with phone in portrait & they rotate. When I click a sideways photo in a forum post it enlarges to correct orientation though.
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Francesca

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2019, 07:45:35 AM »
If you download an app, or use a site to inspect the EXIF data of photos you'll be able to see the orientation marker number and compare it to the chart above to see what the base file orientation is. The reason the photos show correctly after being opened in a browser as an independent file is because most browsers nowadays will open the file and orient it as per the EXIF data, the same way the gallery app and such will.
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Efemera

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2019, 08:13:42 AM »
If you download an app, or use a site to inspect the EXIF data of photos you'll be able to see the orientation marker number and compare it to the chart above to see what the base file orientation is. The reason the photos show correctly after being opened in a browser as an independent file is because most browsers nowadays will open the file and orient it as per the EXIF data, the same way the gallery app and such will.

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I use my iPad in portrait and then edit..most stuff turns out OK.

Fiona M

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2019, 12:36:32 PM »
Testing...

Fiona M

Re: Displaying photos
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2019, 12:39:09 PM »
That seems to work!  Thanks ladies, for the helpful suggestions.  :toast: