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The Emporia => The Show Must Go On => Topic started by: Catllar on July 15, 2017, 14:15:05 PM
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Strapless - flamenco - what could go wrong??
The voile tunic is separate and that's what she wants so she can use it over other stuff.
I was thinking of making the dress in 2 pieces to reduce the drag on the bodice ( there's about 8 metres of fabric in the skirt alone) I suggested a nude mesh yoke but that got shot down. However, perhaps she'd accept clear lingerie straps just as a safety stop! If I can persuade her to go this way I can make the dress as a one piece. Could do a built-in bra.
I think stretch cotton sateen would work with a stretch lining. Was considering boning but then she won't be able to breathe and dance!
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My word she wants to live dangerously. ><
If it were made with a simple sleeveless top section in flesh mesh it would resolve your problems so nicely and make the performance so much more secure but they don't always see it that way do they? Perhaps she just doesn't realise it's the stretching of the torso, not just boob support that needs to be considered.
Good luck and fingers crossed for you!
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Without boning that dress will pull down like there's no tomorrow. Also, boning does not mean she will not be able to breathe or dance. A strapless with a heavy skirt means a boned, tight bodice is mandatory. I'm afraid not even clear lingerie straps will be able to support it. A yoke will do.
I had a strapless princess wedding gown. Was able to move and dance, but man did I feel that weight all night.
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I think there are several options :
1) I throw a designer hissy fit and insist on the yoke. If she plans to wear the tunic then where is the problem?
2) If she insists on strapless then it's got to be separate skirt, bustier and tunic. = i.e. 3 pieces and lots more work.
3) If she insists on strapless dress then the petticoats will have to be separate = i.e 3 pieces and lots more work.
I'm seeing her in a couple of weeks. Will do a designer hissy fit. ;)
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A bit of boning should be fine, as long as it's spiral I guess.
And what about a waist tape? Or some other inner construction that ties the weight to her waist?
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Yes Twan, waist stay is going to be essential if the dress is constructed as one piece, you are right. I am getting concerned that this is moving away from a flamenco dress and is just turning into a frilly frock! Mind you, if that what she wants....
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Does she want to actually dance in it, or just stand around and look glamorous? If she wants to actually dance, then I agree with you that Designer Hissy Fit is the way to go - as in "flesh mesh yoke or I'm not doing it". And the yoke should probably be made of one-way stretch with the stretch going across not up and down. Even then I'd be considering a waist stay to help hold the weight of the skirt frills.
Don't let her talk you round, or you know as well as we all do that it will likely end in tantrums and tears.
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She's going to want to knock out a few Sevillanas in it - and that means arms above the head! Watch this space!
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OMG!! She's asking for wardrobe malfunction!
Has she any idea how embarrassed she could be? :o
Jessie
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She is on the lookout for a new man in her life!
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Not sure that sevillanas in that dress will do the job...?
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Depends whether she wants to show her footwork or her assets!
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I think any prospective beau would run a mile with her assets on show! :o
Still, I'm probably jealous!
Jessie
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I think any prospective beau would run a mile with her assets on show! :o
Yup!
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OK so I saw her today and we had a little chat. We re going for a dress with a strappy top and the voile tunic thing will be separate! Problem of construction solved. AND I dissuaded her from the revolting orange :x she wanted and we are now more to the lavender blue.
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Well done. :)
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Finally settled on a fabric - saw the lavender samples that I order from Spain and they were gross - looked like an old lady colour so we are back in blue again and it arrived today. Final decision is to have the over blouse made in white. That way it'll be more of an all rounder for her rather than the blue. I ordered that today from Spain and some white cotton poplin for the rest of the skirts. Got to think about seam trims - might make bias from the patterned stuff and insert bands in between the white skirt tiers - I'll see. The fabric is totally lovely - a beautiful stretch cotton satin with a lovely hand and it was cheap as chips at about 4 euros a metre - what's not to like? Now just have to make the thing.
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Glad you got it worked out with her! My first thought was an official ballroom competition dress, which her aversion to nude was surprising, but sounds like it is for non competition dancing. I would love to see and hear what you come up with once it' all made!
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No, this is just ( I say "just") a Feria dress - like a party dress and it's seen close quarters. Rest of the fabrics are on their way now, one lot should arrive tomorrow from Paris, but the stuff coming from Spain will take longer.
Made a rough toile for the bodice , now all on hold until I see her in September.
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Love that fabric catllar! What colour are you making the frills? All out of the main fabric, or perhaps alternating with either/and plain blue and white?
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There are 3 top layers and an under frill which is visible, so I'm thinking first layer where it joins the bodice in the print with a plain piping at the seam, then 2 plain white layers edged with a piping trim made from the print, and edge the final layer in , don't know yet - blue lace or something, and then the under frill which is visible in the print. that way it will visually close the skirt and won't look like a petticoat.
If I alternate plain blue and white layers it runs the risk of looking like a bit fairground and predictable so I think I'll just stick to the plan.
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Was wondering why my spotted plumetis hadn't arrived from Spain yet so prepared a sh...y email to fire off. decided to check bank first to see if it had been debited - no joy. Check account and - oops - there it is still in the basket. hadn't pressed the darn button!
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Don't you just hate it when that happens??? Not that I would ever do something like that of course!! :angel: ; :D
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Plumetis arrived a couple of days ago and I want to eat it - it's gorgeous. I might just have to order some in other colours. I made a toile of the dress and I have put it away now until I see her mid September for a fitting. If she loves the fabric half as much as I do I'll be pleased. I sent her photos of it draped on the mannequin.
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She loves the fabric - hooray, So I've started and previously mentioned skirt plan went out the window - made the skirt up with three patterned frills broken up with a narrow crochet trimmed bias piping. Have a lot of fabric to play with, so I might make another option and see what looks best.
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Getting there - finally decided on all patterned frills. Didn't like the look with the white inserts - deckchair came to mind. Made the under layer that sticks out below the skirt but I didn't like it, so it's coming out tomorrow and I plan to remake it in a plain blue that I bought today down in Spain. I'll take some pix tomorrow.