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Title: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: WildAtlanticWay on November 27, 2020, 18:29:46 PM
  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]  DH spotted this in a local charity shop and bought it for me as my ‘Christmas present’.

He thinks he’s doing me a favour but I think it will end up being a dusty ornament. It has bits missing and I think he paid too much (€40) but he’s delighted with himself, so I’m pretending to be pleased for now.  :rolleyes:

I can clean it and it appears to work (handle moves and needle goes up and down), although I’ve never used that type of shuttle before.

Should I try to replace the missing bits and keep hold of it?


Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: steve_h on November 27, 2020, 19:25:23 PM
They are nice old machines. Designed to last forever with normal maintenance. As you know, straight stitch only and no reverse. Once everything is set, they make wonderful stitches. Pretty much anything you could ever need for it is available as new repro, old stock, or used on ebay.
My mother used her grandmother's into the '70's before she got a modern electric with zig-zag. She made all sorts of stuff on it. They were designed back in the treadle days and don't like high speed. With reasonable care, hers was 100% reliable and never saw a shop as long as she could remember.
If you like the antique machines and would like to be able to use it, by all means keep it and use it. It's got a lot of harp space. I've seen them being use for piecing quilts and even free motion quilting. If it's a treadle, you can still sew when there is a power cut if you can see.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: Gernella on November 28, 2020, 10:14:27 AM
That's a plus, no electricity required @WildAtlanticWay I have this fear of the lights going out and not being able to sew.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: Helen M on November 28, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
If you have the space @WildAtlanticWay I'd keep it. I think it's the same or almost to the 27/127k that belonged to my great grandmother and was passed on to my Mum, does it have a domed cover, Mum's had the box shaped with a 'roof'. I learned to sew on it and remember the long shuttle! Mum often turned to it for a better stitch than her newer 'electric' machine when she made coats. She gave it to a charity shop about 20 years ago as I'd stopped sewing back then and had no room for it, I often regret that. I found a bobbin in her sewing box when we were clearing out things.

I remember the bobbin cover having 'Patented in 1887' engraved on it!
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: Lowena on November 28, 2020, 10:32:36 AM
It would be cruel not to keep a present.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: WildAtlanticWay on November 28, 2020, 10:46:09 AM
It let me attach the picture today.

Can anyone advise where to buy replacement parts please?

Also, is there a way to find out where it was made? DH is from Glasgow and wondered if it could have been made in Clydebank?

In Ireland, you find both American stuff as well as U.K. stuff in the charity shops due to lots of people from the south west of Ireland having left for the States during the famine years. This area was the hardest hit during the famine.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: StitchinTime on November 28, 2020, 10:55:59 AM
There’s a list of Singer serial numbers on the ISMACs website which will confirm the model number and tell you when those serial numbers were allocated. I think a “k” at the end of the model number indicates it was made in the Kilbowie factory in Scotland.
http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-sewing-machine-serial-number-database.html
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: StitchinTime on November 28, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
What parts are missing? The obvious one I can see from the photo is the front bobbin cover which can be got from Helen Howes.
http://www.helenhowes-sewingmachines.co.uk/vstsplates.html

Edit: SewLincs also have spare parts for a 28k but the front plates seem to be sold out.
https://www.sewlincs.co.uk/28k/cat4628660_3735821.aspx
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: KayK on November 28, 2020, 11:33:26 AM
I have one of these, which came complete with one bobbin, but the shuttle was still there!.  The needle plates are a bit wobbly, but it does the most beautiful of stitches, and is generally happy with any thread. The bobbins are probably the only things that are in short supply, but I too give a big vote for Helen Howes!
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: LeilaMay on November 28, 2020, 11:41:42 AM
Looks like it begins with letter R ? Or is it a K?
Either would make it Scotland  :)

Helen Howes can help with parts. Lots of info here abut cleaning and servicing. Lots of folks will help with info.

I would get it working and keep it - it's in nice condition.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: BlueCat on November 28, 2020, 12:06:22 PM
I sold one recently, only because I didn’t have the room for it (and others).   :'( It sewed the best stitch, was good to have in case of power cuts, easy for young children to use and the watching the bobbin winding was mesmerising  :P
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: WildAtlanticWay on November 28, 2020, 13:47:29 PM
Thank you. I knew you lovely people would have all the right answers.  :thumbsup:

I think I was a bit taken aback when he bought it because I’d just ordered a brand new Brother sewing machine the day before and hadn’t mentioned it to him yet.  :|

So it looks like I’ve yet another project to be working on over the winter months.  :laughing:


Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: Elnnina on November 28, 2020, 14:46:56 PM
WildAtlanticWay many years ago now when my daughter was still very much a child, I bought an old singer hand crank for her to use, and of course between her and her brother they messed about with it and lost the front needleplate.  Needless to say I was not amused, and in order for it to be still used I found some very thick cardboard and cut this to shape from the back cover, and this slotted in beautifully, I then passed this machine on to someone else complete with the cardboard still place, and years later the missing needleplate came to light and I was able to give this to my friend.  At that time there simply wasn't the interest in the old vintage machines and I didn't think that any sewing machine shop would have any parts - I may have been wrong, but the cardboard certainly served its purpose.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: steve_h on November 29, 2020, 02:46:23 AM
I have seen the sliding shuttle cover plates and the needle throat plate available new repro and used on ebay.
It is very nearly the same machine as the 27, which I have, but with a few updates. Model number with K after indicates Kilbowie factory as was mentioned earlier and the ISMACS listing will give you when that batch of serial numbers was released.
I bought a new repro replacement shuttle with 5 bobbins for mine a couple months ago. Works like a champ. Mine was at some point unfortunately converted to electric so I don't get to enjoy using the treadle.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: HooliganHeart on November 30, 2020, 14:42:14 PM
Parts are easy to find for these  :thumbsup: It looks a keeper to me also  :thumbsup: Good hubby i say  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: Sewot on December 03, 2020, 22:58:32 PM
Your Hubby is feeling on top of the world as he has bought you what he thought was a beautiful old machine.
That is what it is!!!!
" Shall I keep it"???....
Fat YES of course for the above reasons.
As said by others....for spare parts...Helen Howes.
Everything can be fixed/ replaced and it is a nice journey doing it. ( save a machine from the tip)
Those old shuttle machines do a lovely stitch and also in heavy fabrics.
You have total control for fine work with a hand cranker.
You may find that with time you will grow to love it.
You just cannot let it go.
It is telling you that!!!!!
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: rubywishes on January 03, 2021, 01:02:13 AM
@WildAtlanticWay   The 28 is the 3/4 size version of the 27. Just like the 99 is the 3/4 size version of the 66.
Title: Re: Old Singer 28k - should I keep it?
Post by: BrendaP on January 03, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
Apart from the missing bits it looks to be in good condition and lovely decals. 

As others have said Helen Howes or Sewlincs for the shuttle, spools and cover, and it will make a nice display piece and very functional in a power cut - assuming you have daylight!