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Title: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 14:33:02 PM
Clickbait, moi?
This is a serious query. When making flying geese blocks, how much of the background fabrics do you cut away?
I keep reading that one should leave the background fabric on place to aid stability. However, I have usually cut away both fabrics as it is less bulky to sew.
What do you do?
Does it matter to the finished quilt?
Thanks peeps......for my sins I'm doing a whole quilt using the bloody things  :D
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 14:35:37 PM
Practice block  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]  
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Pearl on July 25, 2020, 15:02:06 PM
I usually cut away both fabrics too, but Alex Anderson (from The Quilt Show) recommends just cutting the middle fabric. 

(If I didn't spend so much time watching others making quilts on YouTube, I might be up to date with something.)
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Ploshkin on July 25, 2020, 15:04:28 PM
I have done both but i prefer to cut the excess off.  I trim it down to a quarter inch.
As you say, it can get bulky if you don't trim.  Also, if the goose happens to be light with a dark background the dark colour could possibly show through a bit.
Well done for tackling your nemesis.  I like that star block.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: RJR_38 on July 25, 2020, 15:25:56 PM
I always use the make 4 at once method as it is far more accurate for me than single ones - that might be a good option for you with that block? If would certainly speed it up
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: wrenkins on July 25, 2020, 15:31:13 PM
That's how I did mine for the 2020BOM @RJR_38. I found it worked well...but I still hate them. I fnd it hard to get them straight most times. You have the heart of a lion @Lowena!  :S
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Syrinx on July 25, 2020, 15:32:52 PM
It depends on the two fabric colours - if one is very light then cut away to 1/4 inch. If not then don't worry too much. I don't usually bother trimming too much because it's a faff. But if the block needs it then I'll trim. Also if you're pressing as you go - press the leftover to the darkside - ma not even have to trim! If you're going to end up with a bulky back then trim. If it doesn't matter then don't bother.

I FPP my spiral geese and couldn't be bothered to trim even with my special FPP trimming rulers so it doesn't matter too much - I was going to have a tonne of SA either way so I saved time by not doing it.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 15:51:02 PM
Thank you girls  <3 The batik star parts are lighter in weight than the background fabric so I think I might revert to cutting away both background triangles., as you haven't told me not to  :D.
I've done 2 blocks ( 8.5" unfinished ) of a double bed quilt  :o so I certainly am facing my nemesis :S You never know...I might one day get to like the b****rs! :headbang:
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Iminei on July 25, 2020, 16:53:14 PM
As I have said time and again in my tuts ...

If you cut a perfect (for the sake of example) 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" rectangle
Add you squares, sew on the diagonal, press back on themselves and trim JUST the MIDDLE layer of fabric ...

If your wings are slightly off, for what ever reason, you always have your perfect 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" rectangle to trim to and sew to ....

Flying Geese Tutorial (https://photos.app.goo.gl/JE97FapapzrpGJtf8)
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 17:01:24 PM
Yes professor  :P thanks for that. :thinking:
It's not the accuracy, it's the bulk
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: BrendaP on July 25, 2020, 20:24:07 PM
I usually take the easy option and put a seam down the middle of the goose!  That way it's just two pairs of HSTs.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: BrendaP on July 25, 2020, 20:28:13 PM
@Lowena  Looking closely at your practice block I can see that you had trouble with the top and bottom geese but not the geese on either side.  And looking even closer do I detect that the squares in the centre aren't exactly square, but rectanglular. 

If I am right then either your problem is with the accuracy of cutting and/or seam allowances, or if it's meant to be a rectangle then it's a maths problem and teh two sets of geese need to be cut differently.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 22:06:52 PM
I might go back to the 2xhsts @BrendaP ....and just have one big square in the middle  :D....  Or would that be bad :devil:?
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: wrenkins on July 25, 2020, 22:54:20 PM
Quilt pleece are locked up.  :dance:
Go for it @Lowena! It'll give exactly the same effect as it's all the same fabric and be a whole lot easier.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 25, 2020, 22:55:22 PM
Get there behind me  :devil:
 :D :D
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: wrenkins on July 25, 2020, 23:00:59 PM
But it's true!  0_0
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Iminei on July 26, 2020, 07:17:58 AM
Why is your centre square made up of 4 pieces of the same fabric ?  :faints:

Hope you find a way round it ... HST geese are ok 'specially if the goose is made of a plain fabric and ironed within an inch of its life.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: BrendaP on July 26, 2020, 10:26:16 AM
@Lowena if the four squares in the centre are all the same fabric there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be just one big square.  0_0

As for using HSTs for the geese, there IS a reason (it's easier for you) to do so, so go for it.

BUT, I still think that you should use a ruler to check on the finished sizes of all the squares because something is not right.  If everything was as it should be you wouldn't have the problem you have.

Accuracy of cutting and accuracy of sewing are the two key factors to getting good patchwork blocks.
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 26, 2020, 11:04:34 AM
I don't know why the 4 squares are of the same fabric @Iminei I just followed the pattern 

Ah! I know why.......it's a pattern for jelly rolls, so one side has to be 2.5"
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: rubywishes on July 28, 2020, 06:50:45 AM
I'd do the lot as a fpp piece/s and let the paper do the accuracy for me, but I'm lazy like that ;)
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Lowena on July 28, 2020, 10:15:32 AM
But @rubywishes I couldn't do too in a million years! It's the work of the :devil: and I don't understand it at all
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Syrinx on July 28, 2020, 11:03:48 AM
I have a nice tulip FPP tut on here somewhere. FPP is delightful!
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Acorn on July 28, 2020, 11:49:43 AM
I think I need to watch somebody doing it - but when I looked at Youtube videos they weren't very clear (and, to be honest, I'm not too patient with all the unnecessary palaver people put on videos - I wish they'd just cut to the chase!)
Title: Re: When you're making "horrid winged beastie" blocks
Post by: Syrinx on July 28, 2020, 12:18:49 PM
Well if you fancy a tutorial here's a nice one (https://photos.app.goo.gl/haVH4kfgbs8fjIz43). There's a tonne of faff at the start on icking fabrics but I like to think the actual FPP bit is decent ;)