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The Emporia => In the wardrobe => Topic started by: StitchinTime on January 21, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
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Looking at photos of yesterday's inauguration I noticed that Jill Biden's coat buttoned right-over-left, but Kamala Harris' coat buttoned left-over-right.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12C32/production/_116605867_gettyimages-1297436108.jpg)
[Photo from BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55742583)]
I was taught that women's clothing buttoned right-over-left and men's clothing buttoned left-over-right, but is this convention now changing?
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Interesting, I too thought right over left for women, I always do mine that way.
Edit: T'Other Half says Americans do them all left over right, so Mrs New President may have an English coat??
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In this article on Inauguration Day fashions (https://www.vogue.com/article/history-of-inauguration-day-fashion), the women's coats seem to be mainly right-over-left, so it might not be due to geography.
I did wonder if Jill Biden's coat was made from Linton Tweed, but I guess that could be regarded as unpatriotic even though the designer is American.
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More on the coat is in this article (https://www.today.com/style/jill-biden-s-inauguration-day-outfit-ocean-blue-coat-dress-t206236) - the sparkle is from Swarovski crystals, not the lurex thread present in some Linton Tweeds.
Interestingly, the original design sketch for the coat seems to show it buttoning left-over-right.
(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2021_03/1663108/jill-inauguration-style-sketch-kb-inline-210120-2_39262ce3a5a014555e571872def781e8.fit-600w.jpg)
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Interesting, I too thought right over left for women, I always do mine that way.
Edit: T'Other Half says Americans do them all left over right, so Mrs New President may have an English coat??
I thought it was conventionally right over left for ladies throughout the western world, but whenever the subject has come up on various internet sites it is mostly Americans who are less fussed about which way.
The thing I often notice is diagonally striped men's ties. When worn UK ties usually have the stripes pointing to the wearer's left.
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whilst Americans often wear ties pointing to the wearer's right.
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I think I would hate to be in the spotlight like this, where everything you wear is studied, commented on and probably picked on.
That dress Melania wore to get off Airforce 1 was horrendous (see what I mean).
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Do a google for Janey Godley's voiceovers to find out that Melania was wearing her mum's 1960s curtains to head off for pilates class! :laughing:
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I like Michelle Obama's outfit.
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I like Michelle Obama's outfit.
(https://i.imgur.com/1qvaFdu.jpg)
I didn't. Mrs Obama is a tall woman, yet looks short and none of the colours matched.
Loved Dr Biden's outfit, although the coat is not a great fit.
(https://i.imgur.com/QiurqPh.jpg)
Awful. Wrong colour and the coat should have been a fit and flare. It would have disguised her apple shape middle and given her some hips.
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One long standing theory for men's coats buttoning left over right is that it gave them easy access to a sword or pistol. Bit of a bummer if you were left handed. Ladies, of course, weren't armed.
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In just a passing image on the news tonight, I spotted a cream coat with what looked like embroidery around the hemline. I only saw the back, so I am not sure who wore it. I would dearly love to see it in more detail.
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Melania was wearing her mum's 1960s curtains to head off for pilates class!
(https://i.imgur.com/Zfl7ZBA.jpg)
She's heading straight to the poolside.
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Michelle Obama's looked better in the newspaper photo today. She is standing still in it and you can see how well the trousers hang.
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One long standing theory for men's coats buttoning left over right is that it gave them easy access to a sword or pistol. Bit of a bummer if you were left handed. Ladies, of course, weren't armed.
Hmmm, then ladies could hook their right arm through their gent's left, leaving their left hand free to tuck inside just for warmth while he defends her with his right - take that you blaggard! :S
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@datcat23 Jill Biden wore a cream coat for the inauguration concert. I can’t find many photos of it yet, but there are a few in this article (https://www.insider.com/photos-jill-biden-inauguration-concert-dress-flowers-every-us-state-2021-1).
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One long standing theory for men's coats buttoning left over right is that it gave them easy access to a sword or pistol. Bit of a bummer if you were left handed. Ladies, of course, weren't armed.
Makes sense. I have seen officers on parades with the left side of their greatcoats hooked back behind the scabbard of their sword.
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I think the paparazzi would find my stylings the height of sartorial elegance ...
and here comes Iminei down the stairs and yes, shes favouring the summery white with red and black polka dot PJ bottoms for todays opening ceremony of the dishwasher ...... :laughing:
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I thought that these fine men and women looked wonderful, and I shed a tear or two throughout the day, especially listening to Amanda Gorman, who also looked gorgeous. Mrs Obama was stunning, like the song 'Flawless'.
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thank you @StitchinTime ..... I couldn't look at the article, because its a subscription only page, but it helped me narrow the search.
(https://fashionbombdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Dr.-Jill-Biden-Wore-a-Cream-Flower-Embroidered-Custom-Gabriela-Hearst-Double-Breasted-Cashmere-Coat-and-Silk-Wool-and-Organza-Dress-at-the-2021-Presidential-Inauguration-Ball5-800x993.jpg)
I have a set of embroidery files that would be perfect for this style of coat.
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I rather liked Michelle O's red coat but not her outfit. Too much red. Newsweek is confused. They called her outfit purple. :thinking:
That article regarding Dr Biden's dress said it had flowers from every state. We all have a state flower in the US in case that isn't common knowledge I don't know how that was managed because it doesn't look like there's enough space for all of them.
50 state flowers (https://www.50states.com/flower.htm)
I might be in the minority but I didn't mind Melania T's dress. Looked quite comfortable.
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@mudcat ... we have state flowers in Australia, so I assume its a fairly common thing.
(https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/floral-emblems-all.jpg)
I would assume Michelle Obama's ensemble would have been purple, as in the burgundy end of the purple spectrum. I think the media's focus on the colour, was an attempt tag some symbolism to the clothing. I liked her outfit, to me it was a nod to the 70's pantsuit style.
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I guess I consider burgundy to be a red not a purple ... but what do I know? I can't tell you how many people will refer to fuchsia as purple when in fact fuchsia is in the pink family.
@datcat23 what are those red flowers in the bottom left? Those are cool.
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I liked those flowers too and I looked them up. It is called Sturt's desert pea. Emblibrary has files for them and all those state flowers. What can I use them on I wonder?
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What is usually referred to as fuschia is very close to magenta - as in printer inks etc - which is actually pigment/subtractive primary red along with cyan and yellow, and the secondary pigment colours are blue green and red.
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/quilts/colour/colour_theory.htm (http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/quilts/colour/colour_theory.htm)
When you get to the in-between colours it is very subjective. I would say that Michelle Obama's coat was a darkened shade of Magenta, maybe leaning a little towards blue, but in lay terms anything between red and blue is "purple". But when does red stop and purple start? or blue stop and purple start?
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..... I couldn't look at the article, because its a subscription only page, but it helped me narrow the search.
Kudos to you. I spent ages looking for the coat, but only found partial images.
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Gabriela Hearst was the designer of Jill Bidens Cream outfit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9173979/Jill-Bidens-inauguration-concert-outfit-Gabriela-Hearst-pays-tribute-U-S-states.html
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(https://fashionbombdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Dr.-Jill-Biden-Wore-a-Cream-Flower-Embroidered-Custom-Gabriela-Hearst-Double-Breasted-Cashmere-Coat-and-Silk-Wool-and-Organza-Dress-at-the-2021-Presidential-Inauguration-Ball5-800x993.jpg)
Thats beautiful!
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It is really lovely.
The UK has a flower for each county (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_flowers_of_the_United_Kingdom), too. Ours is bog rosemary, which, given the state of our fields at the moment, makes complete sense.
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Thanks for the link @Acorn , Suffolk's flower is the oxlip which are very rare.
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This is DDD's ....(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Erica_ciliaris.jpg/188px-Erica_ciliaris.jpg)
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Kent has hops!
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Absolutely, love that white coat! I have to say the ceremony was understated, but no less beautiful for that.
Jessie
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I loved the various styles and fit of the ladies coats also the colours.
As for the beautiful white coat with the various State's flowers, a few years ago I sent a Jacquie Lawson card to my cousin in Minnesota, at the end of the card was a link to a puzzle in which you have to insert the right shape of the State into the right place on the USA map. Once completed it then showed the various flowers for each State, and my cousin did not know about the various flowers for each State. Well imagine my surprise a year or so later when I received a surprise package from this cousin - totally out of the blue, and it was a jigsaw of America's State flowers in postage stamp form - needless to say I stopped what I was doing at the time and did the jigsaw. I thought this was a lovely way that Mrs. Biden had of embracing the whole of the USA - a new Presidency and a new team in office.
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I thought Jill Biden's outfit was lovely. And a matching mask! :thumbsup:
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The UK has a flower for each county (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_flowers_of_the_United_Kingdom), too.
(https://i.imgur.com/0i0Quh2.jpg)
Rosebay willowherb, the London county flower. Known in the US as fireweed and in Canada as great willowherb.
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I think the Willowherb is also called Fireweed because it springs up after the seeds have been burnt in a fire. Maybe London blossomed with it after the Great Fire of London?
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It such a pretty flower, but I am hopeless and can only recognise the most common flowers and plants.
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I am so entertained by all you lovely Brits eying American politicos and politicas fashion while we're sitting on this side of the Atlantic wondering what color The Queen will wear next.
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Her Majesty always wears something bright so that she is easy to spot.
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And she colour blocks ... one colour, head to toe so she stands out in a crowd ... Shes only 5 ft nothing I believe.
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It is really lovely.
The UK has a flower for each county (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_flowers_of_the_United_Kingdom), too. Ours is bog rosemary, which, given the state of our fields at the moment, makes complete sense.
:faints: Who knew? And who decided?
I must look them up.
Dorset Heath, pictured previously by Imi. It may look small and unassuming but Dorset's lowland heath habitat is extremely rare and precious.
Gloucestershire, where I will be living in a month or so, has the wild daffodil. I love simple daffs.
Apparently the flowers were allocated by 'Plantlife' in 2002. Perhaps we should make more of them.
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RBWH is also known as bombweed because it colonised the bombsites after the blitz. It's actually the flower that is the mainstay of my annual honey crop.
Who on earth picked Whorled Caraway for Carmarthenshire :S. when we have so many beautiful wild flowers here.
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In today's paper there's a photo of Anna Wintour wearing the same kaftan as Melania Trump
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(https://i.imgur.com/QBuyxBn.jpg)
It's by Gucci and she doesn't look any better than Mrs Trump.
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Had to laugh. She doesn't look very happy, does she?
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And she colour blocks ... one colour, head to toe so she stands out in a crowd ... Shes only 5 ft nothing I believe.
5'4". I did not, of course, look up her weight. THAT would be rude. ;)
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Oh my days :[ AW and MT in the same dress. I wonder how AW feels about it :laughing:
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That's probably why she looks so miserable.
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I didn’t like the kaftan, but Melania has always got bad press and criticism over her outfits, not in my view fairly. The USA has been lucky with First Ladies imo. Just think what a car crash it might have been.
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Mrs Obama and Mrs Trump had great first lady wardrobes, although I thought Mrs Trump was overly fond of sky high heels. Mrs Clinton didn't care about fashion and didn't try to compete with anyone.
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In just a passing image on the news tonight, I spotted a cream coat with what looked like embroidery around the hemline. I only saw the back, so I am not sure who wore it. I would dearly love to see it in more detail.
It was worn by Jill Biden for the evening celebration. There was a matching dress with embroidered tulle sleeves and shoulders.
It gave me masses of inspiration for my Mother of the Bride outfit next January, lol
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@datcat23, I saw a few pictures of the dress and coat and it was lovely. The embroidery was flowers from each state and territories in the US. What I loved what the inscription on the inside by Benjamin Franklin. My mantra as an educator:
Tell me and I forget, Teach me and I remember, Involve me and I learn.
Here is a great article (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9173979/Jill-Bidens-inauguration-concert-outfit-Gabriela-Hearst-pays-tribute-U-S-states.html) on the white outfit
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I actually liked Melania's kaftan, she looked like she was off to enjoy a holiday in the sun. I prefer the sleeves on her dress to the cuffs on Anna Wintour's.