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The Emporia => Embroidery and Embellishment => Topic started by: Emily on December 03, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Title: 13ft Sampler!!
Post by: Emily on December 03, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
  Hi everyone,

I thought I’d post this here, as no one around me is interested in embroidery or textiles, and those that might be are sick of hearing about it.
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Post by: b15erk on December 03, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
What a beautiful find!  Such a shame for it to be rolled up - mind you, that's probably why it's in such good condition.

I always wished I could produce pretty embroidery, but my large, clumsy hands put an end to that idea!

Jessie
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Post by: Greybird on December 03, 2019, 09:32:44 AM
It looks as if it ought to be in a museum.
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Post by: Emily on December 03, 2019, 09:53:43 AM
It looks as if it ought to be in a museum.

I’d love it to be exhibited, but because it’s french, no one will have it as it has no historical  connection to England.
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Post by: Greybird on December 03, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
Not even a needlework museum?
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Post by: SkoutSews on December 03, 2019, 10:03:32 AM
That's beautiful and, no, I've never seen anything like it. Who told you the history of the piece or is it obvious from the embroidery?
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Post by: Emily on December 03, 2019, 10:17:55 AM
Not even a needlework museum?

There’s only one here and they don’t want it.
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Post by: BrendaP on December 03, 2019, 11:09:37 AM
The photo isn't clear enough to be sure, but it looks as though quite a lot of the pieces ae needle lace.
If so the Lace Guild might be interested.
https://www.laceguild.org/
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Post by: Ploshkin on December 03, 2019, 14:07:10 PM
There are Ursuline Convents in the UK - they may be interested in it.
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Post by: Emily on December 03, 2019, 18:00:11 PM
The photo isn't clear enough to be sure, but it looks as though quite a lot of the pieces ae needle lace.
If so the Lace Guild might be interested.
https://www.laceguild.org/

I think I’ve added a video of the sampler, which may help with identifying the sections. ☺️
Title: Re: 13ft Sampler!!
Post by: BrendaP on December 04, 2019, 00:31:41 AM
@Emily  Is there a link to the video?
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Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 07:41:30 AM
 
@Emily  Is there a link to the video?

I’ve added the link, but it won’t let me play it for some reason. I’ll add some more photos.
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Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
@Emily  Is there a link to the video?

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Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 07:50:22 AM

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Post by: Iminei on December 04, 2019, 07:58:59 AM
RUM ?????  :P
Title: Re: 13ft Sampler!!
Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 08:06:52 AM
RUM ?????  :P

I know.
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Post by: Iminei on December 04, 2019, 08:12:20 AM
orrrrrrr RUM (Yum!)
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Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 08:26:30 AM
orrrrrrr RUM (Yum!)

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Post by: Greybird on December 04, 2019, 10:19:19 AM
These look like pieces cut from other items and appliqued on rather than pieces that have been done especially for it. No less attractive for that. It's the same principle I have used making cushions from scraps of vintage fabric. I can perhaps see why it wouldn't be of interest to a museum though. A class project I expect. Maybe it was to go over an altar?
Title: Re: 13ft Sampler!!
Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 10:22:10 AM
These look like pieces cut from other items and appliqued on rather than pieces that have been done especially for it. No less attractive for that. It's the same principle I have used making cushions from scraps of vintage fabric. I can perhaps see why it wouldn't be of interest to a museum though. A class project I expect. Maybe it was to go over an altar?

Hello. ☺️ I can guarantee that your description isn’t the case. I’ve had it looked at by professionals, and they have all agreed that each piece was made by a student, and then they were all attached together as a reference. The first section says Cours, which means lesson or teach in French. They haven’t been cut from vintage items.
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Post by: SkoutSews on December 04, 2019, 10:23:06 AM
I know.
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Post by: Emily on December 04, 2019, 12:05:58 PM
Religieuses Ursulines de M...........    perhaps?

Ohh, I hadn’t thought of that.
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Post by: BrendaP on December 05, 2019, 00:32:47 AM
@Emily  As well as a variety of embroidery stitches I can see a several types of needle lace stitches, embroidered net and I think (not certain) that the square hankie might be bobbin lace edged with drawn thread work in one corner.
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Post by: Iminei on December 05, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
de MONS (https://www.ursulines-mons.be/organisation/historique/) perhaps ????

Maybe they would be interested??
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Post by: Emily on December 05, 2019, 11:21:36 AM
de MONS (https://www.ursulines-mons.be/organisation/historique/) perhaps ????

Maybe they would be interested??

It’s quite possible, but I can’t speak French, so have no idea what the website is saying.
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Post by: Iminei on December 05, 2019, 12:08:53 PM
Does your internet not have a translate this page option?
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Post by: blackcat001 on January 22, 2020, 09:55:20 AM
It’s quite possible, but I can’t speak French, so have no idea what the website is saying.
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Post by: SkoutSews on April 05, 2020, 20:47:25 PM
Did anyone else see the Antiques Roadshow this evening? A huge sampler from Religieuses Ursulines in Thildonck. I think they said 13 feet long? It was a fascinating display of sewing skills.
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Post by: Ellabella on April 05, 2020, 22:52:00 PM
I saw it @SkoutSews , it was absolutely fascinating.  The Frenchman must have had a thing about incredibly long samplers.
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Post by: SkoutSews on April 05, 2020, 22:58:34 PM
All those different sewing skills - hooks and eyes, buttonholes, darning, drawn thread work, etc, etc. were so interesting. Then we had the background of the Ursuline convent as a technical school. It must be the same explanation for @Emily with her sampler.
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Post by: Renegade Sewist on April 05, 2020, 23:18:13 PM
What sort of value did they give it?  Asking for Emily.   :)
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Post by: SkoutSews on April 06, 2020, 09:40:20 AM
I've just checked. It was valued at around £300-400. For anyone wanting to see it on iplayer, the item starts at 36 minutes in.
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Post by: Acorn on April 06, 2020, 10:38:03 AM
I saw it briefly last night, and I don't think it was as lovely as the one @Emily has!
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2020, 10:38:57 AM
What sort of value did they give it?  Asking for Emily.   :)

I have been told around £400-£500 ☺️
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Post by: SkoutSews on April 06, 2020, 10:49:08 AM
Yours looks in better condition and is prettier.
The interest for me was the background information in the programme.
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Yours looks in better condition and is prettier.
The interest for me was the background information in the programme.

What programme??
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Post by: wrenkins on April 06, 2020, 13:04:59 PM
Did anyone else see the Antiques Roadshow this evening? A huge sampler from Religieuses Ursulines in Thildonck. I think they said 13 feet long? It was a fascinating display of sewing skills.

This one.  :)
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Post by: Lizzy777 on April 10, 2020, 15:02:40 PM
If you go to this google link and select the one entitled but before you do.  Just above the Ursulines word there is a 'Translate this page' . Press the' Translate this page' and it will automatically give you the page in English.


"Bienvenue ... - Ecoles des Religieuses Ursulines de Monswww.ursulines-mons.be › organisation › historique"

It's a beautiful sampler. I was taught by similar nuns in the UK from age 5 to 11.

An excerpt from the page.

"Teaching at that time focused on writing, arithmetic and needlework, without forgetting, of course, religious instruction and the practice of morality. "


Thank you for showing us the sampler  :)