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Title: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: annieeg on February 10, 2019, 14:36:47 PM: Since posting this question - I've discovered that the left hand side of the freearm (from the needle) is longer on the Atelier 5 than on, say, a Pfaff Expression. This would explain why a Pfaff will fit in the bed of a standard Horn cabinet with room for a Perspex plate.
:D

Hi,
Sorry if my question is a bit confused, but does anyone know the makes/models of machines which has a longer than standard sewing bed but not as long as quilting machines ... i.e., the space between the needle and the pillar.
E.g. the Janome Atelier 5 has a space of just over 20cms but I'm curious to know whether there's a machine which has a slightly shorter sewing bed but not as short as a standard "old-fashioned" machine.
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Acorn on February 10, 2019, 17:11:45 PM: I can't offer any answers, but I do know that it is incredibly difficult to find out the harp space sizes. When I enquired about it (from the usual online suppliers) for a few machines a while ago one clearly had no idea what the harp space was, and the other made up an answer that I knew was wrong.

I cannot understand why the info isn't easily available.
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Sakar on February 10, 2019, 17:37:46 PM: Sorry, double posting....
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Sakar on February 10, 2019, 17:39:02 PM: I can't really answer your question, but maybe these pics are a little help....

My machine is a Pfall Quilt Expression 4.2 and I totally love it <3 0_0

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Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: BrendaP on February 10, 2019, 17:46:31 PM: You need to look at the manufacturer's websites to find the specs of the fifferent machines.

Pfaff refer to the harp space as 'needle to post distance' which on the Expression is 250mm (10")
http://www.pfaff.com/en-US/Machines#.54 (http://www.pfaff.com/en-US/Machines#.54)

Janome Atelier range have a 'work space width' of 8.3 inches
http://janome.co.uk/janome_products/atelier-9/ (http://janome.co.uk/janome_products/atelier-9/) then 'full specification'

Janome Horizon 8900QCP has a 'work space width' of 11 inches.
http://janome.co.uk/janome_products/horizon-8900qcp/ (http://janome.co.uk/janome_products/horizon-8900qcp/)
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: annieeg on February 10, 2019, 17:57:20 PM: Thank you to all of you and especially to @Sakar for the so clear pictures.
I know have enough data on which to base my choice.
:D
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Sakar on February 11, 2019, 17:20:23 PM: @annieeg And who is the winner? :)
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: annieeg on February 12, 2019, 08:41:46 AM: @Sakar
The "winner" is my Atelier 5 in a standard Horn cabinet bed with an old Perspex insert which has been re-cut to fit by my DH.
Its not gorgeous but it does work; the key issue being that the extra long arm at the left hand side of the needle leaves the tiniest space (<0.5 cm) but he did manage to leave the edge in place to the insert fits in.
I can't possibly compete with your fantastic photos, but attached is my sad attempt ... :|
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Annieeg
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Sakar on February 12, 2019, 09:13:59 AM: Gorgeous is not necessary. Your sewing place has to fit your needs that you can produce gorgeous things 0_0 And your pic is great too :)
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Gernella on February 12, 2019, 10:50:57 AM: Don't know about gorgeous @Sakar I'm just impressed with the pin cushion on your machine, well the machine as well really, I'm a Pfaff fan. Black lace as well :loveit:
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Iminei on February 12, 2019, 17:09:44 PM: Don't know about gorgeous @Sakar I'm just impressed with the pin cushion on your machine, well the machine as well really, I'm a Pfaff fan. Black lace as well

On date nights, she wears it on her thigh !!! ;) :devil:
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Sakar on February 13, 2019, 09:17:10 AM: @Iminei(https://www.quiltfriend.de/images/smilies/rotflol.gif)

@Gernella originally it was a black cat's face, but the ears got the holder of some clover clips, so now my "cat" has hanging ears ... :D
Title: Re: Sewing machines - lengths of standard, mid long-arm and quilters long-arm
Post by: Gernella on February 13, 2019, 10:21:16 AM: Yes @Sakar , I'd seen those as well and thought what a good place for them. I got using them with my last jacket that didn't like pins and now I use them for nearly everything, particularly zips.

It's a shame really because something like that I just could not be arsed to make myself (the last pin cushion I got off Ebay, and it was so beautifully made for something so small it was worth every penny).

If there are any crafters on this site who can make them, I want one, black lace and elastic please, otherwise I'll have to bodge and wind veterinary bandage round my source of pleasure.