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Machine Talk => Sewing Machines => Topic started by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 19, 2022, 11:31:09 AM

Title: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 19, 2022, 11:31:09 AM
I may be wanting the impossible, but here goes anyway  0_0

I'm wondering if there is a machine (at a sensible price if possible) that is a free arm with hardly any "arm" to the left of the needle if you see what I mean.  I think it would be really useful for sewing bags etc.

I did spot an old Singer 320k (which looks gorgeous too) but it's still got about an inch and a half of arm on the left, and ones I've seen are around £500, so probably too much for something that will only be used occasionally.

I've also seen industrial types, but I can't spend that sort of money!

Anyone got any ideas please?  Or am I asking the impossible?
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Ohsewsimple on January 19, 2022, 12:23:15 PM
How much length are you looking for?   Just wondering if what you’re after is a possibility in an ordinary machine because of the bobbin?   
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 19, 2022, 13:03:23 PM
As little as possible arm to the left of the needle!  The Singer I saw had the bobbin front loaded which perhaps saves a bit of space.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Ohsewsimple on January 19, 2022, 18:23:47 PM
I can’t think of any machines I’ve seen with very small lengths apart from the very old ones.  Machines used in shoe making and those like Susie on Repair Shop uses. 
Is it small bags you have problems with?   Make bigger ones? :laughing:
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Acorn on January 19, 2022, 18:41:28 PM
Are any of your toy machines good enough stitchers?
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 19, 2022, 19:15:48 PM
I did think about my toy machines, but they won't stitch well enough.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Lilian on January 19, 2022, 21:58:05 PM
I immediately thought of the old 'patcher' sewing machines I think they were good for shoe making.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: sewmuchmore on January 21, 2022, 09:31:48 AM
What about Elna, i seem to think they only have a small amount of space to the left. here (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224651018433?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=7101533165274578&mkcid=2&itemid=224651018433&targetid=4584826055637462&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=412354546&mkgroupid=1299623041023876&rlsatarget=pla-4584826055637462&abcId=9300541&merchantid=87779&msclkid=a8bddae0d36912f10d0dbb0aa867274d) is one on eBay
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Sewbusy on January 21, 2022, 10:49:56 AM
My Bernina 830 Record has the shortest distance of any of my machines and yes it's a front loading bobbin it's about 4.4mm with needle in centre position,. Could lessen that slightly moving needle position.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 21, 2022, 11:16:42 AM
@Sewbusy, thank you for measuring, I've just been looking at the Berninas on ebay and was about to ask if any had one they could measure  :)
However, it's still not quite what i want, I was hoping there might be something out there that's only got about 1cm or less to the left of the needle, but it's not looking like there is.

@Lilian I'm just off to google "patcher" sewing machines...
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 21, 2022, 11:27:33 AM
For this price, can I go wrong?

Linky (https://www.onbuy.com/gb/crenex-cobbler-shoe-repair-machine-leather-sewing-stitching-machine~c11932~p53821621/?exta=gshp&stat=eyJpcCI6IjUzLjk5MDAiLCJkcCI6bnVsbCwibGlkIjo3NTA3NjkxMiwicyI6bnVsbCwidCI6MTY0MjcyMDAxOCwiYm1jIjoiNC4wIn0=&lid=75076912&gclid=CjwKCAiA0KmPBhBqEiwAJqKK40YsVAwUL7I9NRJTuel-76EmOgNXtkB1FBZ2E_8MXrol6dgDnBbeOhoCnjgQAvD_BwE)
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: KayK on January 21, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
Looks like it's worth a go!  I was thinking of the Singer Featherweights that have a free arm, but they are exorbitant, that's if you can find one!
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Lilian on January 21, 2022, 12:24:40 PM
For this price, can I go wrong?

Linky (https://www.onbuy.com/gb/crenex-cobbler-shoe-repair-machine-leather-sewing-stitching-machine~c11932~p53821621/?exta=gshp&stat=eyJpcCI6IjUzLjk5MDAiLCJkcCI6bnVsbCwibGlkIjo3NTA3NjkxMiwicyI6bnVsbCwidCI6MTY0MjcyMDAxOCwiYm1jIjoiNC4wIn0=&lid=75076912&gclid=CjwKCAiA0KmPBhBqEiwAJqKK40YsVAwUL7I9NRJTuel-76EmOgNXtkB1FBZ2E_8MXrol6dgDnBbeOhoCnjgQAvD_BwE)

It is a hand crank, would you be able to hold the fabric with your left hand :thinking:
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 21, 2022, 12:58:30 PM
@Lilian well, we always used to didn't we?  I've ordered it, so will see when it arrives (in about a week I think).
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Lilian on January 21, 2022, 13:10:34 PM
I was thinking more on the lines that there is nowhere to support the excess fabric. Unless it sits on a table but it looks quite tall.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Ellabella on January 21, 2022, 13:10:49 PM
The only thing that worries me is where it says it sews well ‘once you get it assembled right’.

Mind you, you’re a handy lass @Bodgeitandscarper , you will lick it into shape pretty quickly.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Celia on January 21, 2022, 13:19:56 PM
Looking forward to seeing this :loveit:
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Acorn on January 21, 2022, 13:22:11 PM
Fascinating - I'm really looking forward to seeing how this works out.  Maybe you'll start a whole new trend!

And you can repair your shoes too!!
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 21, 2022, 15:41:09 PM
The only thing that worries me is where it says it sews well ‘once you get it assembled right’.

Mind you, you’re a handy lass @Bodgeitandscarper , you will lick it into shape pretty quickly.  :thumb:
Haha, yes, that interested me too!  But then, when you see how some people on t'internet can't even operate a simple sewing machine (not here I hasten to add!), it makes me think it's maybe not a problem  :)
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Acorn on January 21, 2022, 16:06:58 PM
Yes, like the person who left bad feedback on Amazon because the thing they ordered wasn't already assembled.  It was Lego.

You've probably seen the feedback (5 star) that says "Basically a copy of an old singer machine there are so many online resources that can help you. Which you will probably need because this machine biggest problem is setting it up and getting it working! but don't give up, it's worth it!"
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 21, 2022, 16:46:31 PM
@Acorn, I read the reviews on Amazon before ordering from Onbuy - who I hope are reputable, Trustpilot reviews seem to indicate they are. 
I'm rather looking forward to seeing if it is difficult to set - it's mechanical and I have a very logical brain, so should be ok
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Acorn on January 21, 2022, 16:48:39 PM
I thought as I read it that it would be appealing to you! 
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Ohsewsimple on January 21, 2022, 17:14:02 PM
I hope it does the job @Bodgeitandscarper.  Putting it together? :thinking:   That’s where I’d probably come unstuck.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Bodgeitandscarper on January 24, 2022, 09:42:07 AM
Oooooh, much excitement, it's arrived  :dance:

As reviewers said, it's covered in oil, so will need to set to and clean it up - once I've finished my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Free arm machine help please
Post by: Lachica on January 24, 2022, 10:20:42 AM
How exciting! That was quick from China! Looking forward to seeing pix & what you make on it