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The Emporia => In the wardrobe => Topic started by: Kwaaked on April 30, 2019, 18:26:47 PM
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I have no idea why I like the sleeves on this:
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I do not like the jacket it is attached to. My OH does not like this at all, it's too fussy and he can't get past that to see it any other way then THIS jacket.
I can see this attached to a jean jacket, distressed. Am I nutters? Is there another base that would look better?
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No comment, but I will smack you in the head as requested ><
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Yeah, well, we know my taste level is bad at best.
Would it explain things if I admitted Victoria Beckham was my favorite designer?
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Yeah, well, we know my taste level is bad at best.
Would it explain things if I admitted Victoria Beckham was my favorite designer?
Oh dear. That’s all I can find to say ><
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If you like it, go for it.
I wouldn't have the sleeves red or shiny as you could run into some "difficulties" with the folds (See Fendi!!!!). :S I suppose they're meant to look like roses but they don't have to.
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But this jacket is Alexander McQueen.
As to my taste, I poke fun and don't show you some of the tasteful stuff I do. I do dress somewhat OTT and colorful some days, but I actually do have, well hidden, some taste. Honestly, I'd have to have some to do bridal wear.
Even with this jacket, one of the things I am thinking of is doing a jean style in duchesse satin, like the sleeves in cream, drab green or navy...even if I go with Schiaparelli pink, it would be all one color, although that is not really where I am seeing it in my head, and even in a color, I'd do a fruit punch (a more muted pink), coral or mustard. And either worn with a navy shift or a cream blouse and jeans or slacks. I guess what I was asking was seeing if my idea of the distressed and fussy sleeves (distressed denim, either with colored denim or the sleeves being the same indigo) worked, if I needed to take it up to a dressy, casual or if I needed to reasses jacket styles and go for boxy or whatnot.
And no, I don't plan on doing anything else other then the sleeves. No rhinestones, no studs...just a solid jacket with fussy sleeves.
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If you like it, do it! You have to please yourself. I think that the jacket and the sleeves need to be in the same fabric though. The original looks as if it's original sleeves have been cut off and the pink ones have burgeoned out.
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Hmm...I can see the attraction to the idea of making the sleeves...to see if you can ...but whatever style of jacket it's attached to, the wearer would need to be careful not to catch them on things (door handles, coat hooks). I think it would work in denim but you wouldn't get the same play of light on a non-reflective fabric. Do share the process when you make it!!
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I think the jacket as is has a lot going on. Pointed collar, tailored jacket, deep vee, waist seam, waist button, pockets, sleeves...it's hard to know where to look, and the model's waist is higher then the jacket's waist. And then the two tone color...it's all a bit off and a bit of a disconnect.
This particular item caught my attention on the runway for the sleeves...bit McQueen lite meets Madame Vionnet. It fulfills my love of avant garde while still being quite wearable. (I don't really have bad taste, see, it's just avant garde! And yes, I am sticking to that.)
I also think it's a rehash of an older McQueen element. I almost want to say he did this exact treatment, but it is very much a throw back to the Tudor rose of the F/W 2008 season he did...but not as dramatic. And not as well executed as McQueen did himself.
And so, I'm trying to take a less usual feature, in this case the sleeves, and make a garment that I can wear day to day. Avant garde lite for the shops as it were. I'll shut up now, lol.
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@Lachica I figured out the sleeves in 1/4 scale earlier and made the draping a little smaller, since I don't need the wider shoulder line, nor does that leg o mutton look go over all that well.
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I think that the sleeves - in their fancy fabric, but (as you say) a little smaller - would look great with a faded denim jeans jacket.
I love seeing denim matched with soft or fancy fabrics.
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Quote from: Kwaaked on Today at 18:31:22
Yeah, well, we know my taste level is bad at best.
Would it explain things if I admitted Victoria Beckham was my favorite designer?
Oh dear. That’s all I can find to say ><
What she said with bells on ... tho I must admit you are American so may be forgiven
VB is the Hilary Clinton of England"!
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Wow. Exotic. Go for it!
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Well I love it! But as a work of art rather than something I could ever wear. It's amazing. How do you turn it into a jacket to be worn to the supermarket? Or even out in the evening?
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@SkoutSews How do you make a Chanel jacket wearable? I'm not being sarcastic with this...but many invest in one of them and find a hard time figuring out where to wear it.
On this, well, making it in poly instead of silk, would be one place to start. You can wash it much easier.
Making the "rose" smaller...the drape need not be so dramatic.
Making the sleeves wider from elbow down to not make the head of the sleeve pop out and minimize some of the dramatic.
Making the jacket more casual in design, be it by mimicking a jean jacket, making a cardigan or other less formal, and less tailored garment.
Making a more muted color.
Styling...boyfriend jeans and a t-shirt (silk, bamboo or other higher end textile would be important, especially if you're using poly), motorcycle boots, leather bracelet would make it a weekend wear and edgy enough to remove some of the fussiness. Or slack rolled to ankle and ankle boots with same t-shirt. Conversely, still wearable day to day would be a sheath in a solid color, matching or not or a skirt and basic buttoned blouse with loafer styled low heels, stud earrings and simple jewelry. That would make a regular business attire more edgy.
Evening, isn't hard...depending on what you do in the evening. I wear corsets, and many of them by themselves and skirts in the evening...a slightly edgy skirt, corset and this to cover makes an interesting adult night out attire. Worn with business casual and strappy sandals makes it more dinner appropriate. In cream, you can pair it with a cream dress, silver sandals and have a semi-casual wedding dress, or in a monochrome for a play or dinner out.
Now...when I do go to a bar, which is not often (and I don't drink) I go to a legit honky tonk. Sawdust on the floor, chicken wire around the stage...the fact I am not braless in a tank top with shorts or jeans and trainers makes me stand out enough it doesn't really matter what I actually wear.
@Iminei Yeah, VB is not particularly well liked here either and for the most part I don't care for what she puts out. When she hits it though, it's awesome. I have spoken to her once briefly, and I think that has more to do with it then her actual designs. Isaac Mizrahi is one of my other famous designers...I was able to attend a lecture he gave and he was very bright about the work...bit brusque, but eh. I am, too. And the Blonds rounds out my faves. They are different to my favorite wearable designers...and they are not the same.
Same as my general sewing...I share the OTT stuff I want/do make in idea form (although I know most of you have no interest in seeing it in actuality), but most of my stuff is mundane, normal things with a few statement pieces. Day to day I wear a lot of navy...sheaths and slacks and color in tunics and blouses, but very little of it is eye catching and it's stuff you can see all over the world.
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@Kwaaked I think you're wrong there - we would love to see it in actuality!
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I love Victoria Beckham s designs
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@SkoutSews
Now...when I do go to a bar, which is not often (and I don't drink) I go to a legit honky tonk. Sawdust on the floor, chicken wire around the stage...the fact I am not braless in a tank top with shorts or jeans and trainers makes me stand out enough it doesn't really matter what I actually wear.
I love the image of you in those sleeves here - wouldn't have got it if I hadn't seen Blues Brothers. My doubts about your original image is just the scale really. Having spent too much of my life top heavy I auto recoil from anything that widens the upper body. Now I have the full picture though... how wonderful!
I rather like the Sato sleeves in Morgan's post too but the long sleeves will protect you better from the broken glass ricochet.
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I don't wear sleeveless due to scaring and lupus is causing me to have vitiligo...so I try to minimize all of that with 3/4 or bracelet sleeves now.
The bars I go into is more Rhinestone cowboy then blues brothers...I used to go to Mickey Gilley's when I was younger and before they cleaned it up.
I like the Sato sleeves, too. But I am a fan of Vionnet, and so much of this reminds me of it.
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Rhinestone cowboy? Should definitely work then. :D
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@SkoutSews How do you make a Chanel jacket wearable? I'm not being sarcastic with this...but many invest in one of them and find a hard time figuring out where to wear it.
I made several Chanel style jackets and wear them with jeans and (lomger and fitted) T-shirts or semi-casual blouses. They are as comfortable as a cardigan, you have to figure out what exact length works for you hand how fitted/loose they look best on you.
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Make a sleeveless waistcoat/vest, with sleevies underneath? (It's a sort of bolero).
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@Manuela that was my point. Jackets can be fussy, fancy, expensive, arty, avant garde, normal, vintage or basic are all in the end, a jacket.
I have made a couple, all my weird tastes aside. One is black and a little edgy, for what a Chanel style can be since the trim is geometric and not fringe, and one is cream based with orange, aqua, brown and yellow which sounds louder then it is that is as traditional as it can be. I wear them like I do any jacket...the time spent making one is irrelevant.
If I waited to wear the clothes I wanted to wear to the places most people would gravitate to wearing them, I'd never get them out of my wardrobe and I'd never get out of my pajamas.
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I think those sleeves would be fabulous on a denim jacket. They would, for me, have to be in a blue, not necessarily the same shade as the denim, but blue nonetheless.
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I've made several Chanel style jackets (V7975), because the shape and "unclutteredness" suits me. I don't put the braid on though. Depending on the fabric - from silk dupion to tweed - they can look very different and are very useful whatever I wear them with.
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@Greybird try to pull yarns from the boucle, roll them up and crochet them into a trim. You can use knitting yarn in one of the boucle colours to add volume (or pull mote boucle yarns) as well. That way the trim doesn’t ‘stand oit’, is as soft as the boucle and looks really natural on the jacket. Another option could be fringe trim made from the boucle.
I always pop into the Chanel stores at the airport en route to Thailand to have a close look at trims, check the hand (and composition) of the boucle and study the workmanship in general.
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I like it, don't love it only because I think the idea was done better by Mr McQueen himself.
I also don't particularly like the colour combination. I could see those sleeves though in black satin on a black leather bikers jacket. Or in chiffon on a velvet jacket. Or in any thing on an evening gown.
I want to see your final version.
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Thank you @Manuela - that's really interesting.
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I have no idea why I like the sleeves on this:
I do not like the jacket it is attached to.
I like the jacket but not the sleeves attached to it! :devil:
They don't even match, the folds are different on each.
It reminds me of the sort of orgigami stuff they had to do on the last but one (I think) GBSB
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Can't see that enhancing my figure. Especially not in Waitrose amongst the horsey crowd. :|
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@Goth Gardiner That pretty much sums up my whole feelings on it. I like it, I loved the day long puzzle of figuring out how to do it, but McQueen did it better. But for a gal in a rural area, it's just weird enough to be interesting and not the same old hoodie everyone wears and as someone that sews for a living, pretty good advertisement.
@BrendaP The whole of it was made of one piece of fabric, so calling it origami is probably close. Not how I achieved it, but then I didn't want the fullness and I hated the back of the garment. I replicated the idea enough to get what I wanted without the massive poof...and it also made it more wearable imo. My OH quit griping how much he hated it when I did the 1/4 scale.
@crafter Waitrose is like our Kroger I think...one of the few places here that we go to see and be seen...and it would actually fit right in, so go figure that!