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Title: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 05, 2017, 23:13:50 PM
I have been procrastinating for the last few weeks.  :\

I bought some fabric and wadding to make a baby quilt a few weeks ago now.  I have promised this as a prezzie for a yet to be born baby boy.  OOeer  :o  I've never quilted properly yet, so the fabric is Holly Hobbie in blue for a boy and the wadding is 100% cotton and needle punched.  I hope I have bought correctly for a newborn baby.

My question is, what thread is best for the quilting I would think cotton but don't know what weight I should use?  Is there a particular make that is best and how much would I need?

I will post a photo of the fabric and wadding tomorrow.

I hope someone can help.   :thread:  :vintage:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Ploshkin on May 06, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
Someone else with experience will be along I'm sure but I've just finished quilting my log cabin and I used cotton quilting thread (Tutankhamun).  I had absolutely no problems with it and it didn't break at all.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: rubywishes on May 06, 2017, 11:05:09 AM
Some quilters claim you can only use 100% cotton thread for quilting whilst others use poly. The theory used to be that the poly or poly blend threads would cut through your cotton fabric eventually but I wonder about the validity of this these days with improved threads, weave etc.  Thread weight depends on whether you are quilting by hand or machine, or whether you want your quilting to stand out (use a heavier weight thread) or to blend in (use a finer weight).  Still another consideration is whether you want to use speciality threads for special effects though I doubt this would be of concern for a cot quilt. Consideration must be given to "safety" when constructing a cot quilt and whilst I've never "done" one myself I have heard other quilters discussing the "twist around little fingers" problem of polyester thread versus cotton thread. I personally wouldn't be using a monofilament in a cot quilt.

As a rule, for my general machine quilting I use 50 weight thread...good quality such as Guttermann or Aurafil.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lowena on May 06, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
I'm with Rubes,40 or 50wt cotton thread for machine quilting. I generally hand quilt, if I do big stitch, I use perle thread no8, ordinary hand quilting 30wt. Always go for a good brand :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 13:52:34 PM
Here is the fabric and the wadding I bought.  The squares are 6.5 inches sq.  I was thinking of quilting along the squares.  I am planning to use the same fabric back and front and, if I can, use the fabric to turn up and over for the binding.  Is that daft?

The wadding however is 45" by 59".  I don't think I want to make it quite that big, especially for a first time.

I am trying add the photos but having problems  :(
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 13:53:16 PM
Hope this one shows up.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 13:58:46 PM
This is the wadding:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Iminei on May 06, 2017, 17:00:18 PM
Just cos you bought a pre-cut sized wadding doesn't mean you have to make the quilt that size especially as its for a cot quilt.

Check the quilt sizes sticky in The Dark side.

I always machine quilt with a large stitch size (5) as I want the stitches to show.

I luuurve YLI (for ages I thought it was called YOU, because I didn't have reading glasses!!!) variegated threads.
But any quality thread that enhances your quilt will do.

Quilting along the squares???

You can also cross the squares... ie Quilt across the diagonals,  for a simple and effective look!
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 17:22:28 PM
Just cos you bought a pre-cut sized wadding doesn't mean you have to make the quilt that size especially as its for a cot quilt.

Check the quilt sizes sticky in The Dark side.

I always machine quilt with a large stitch size (5) as I want the stitches to show.

I luuurve YLI (for ages I thought it was called YOU, because I didn't have reading glasses!!!) variegated threads.
But any quality thread that enhances your quilt will do.

Quilting along the squares???

You can also cross the squares... ie Quilt across the diagonals,  for a simple and effective look!

Thank Imi, I think I will cut the wadding to a smaller size; I checked the sizes on the Dark Side so will go with that.

Because the wadding can be quilted up to 10" apart, and I am not piecing squares, I thought I could stitch along the squares to make it look more traditional, would that work?  Not sure about diagonal.

Also would it be best to pin or baste the layers?

I've just had another thought, if I do use the same fabric for the backing I would have to try to match up the squares  :(.  Not sure I'm ready for that yet!

Thanks for the tip on stitch size  :)

Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 17:25:07 PM
I just looked at the YLI threads and think this might work well.  :)


https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0018N6V10/ref=sr_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1494087806&sr=8-35&keywords=yli+machine+quilting+thread
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: BrendaP on May 06, 2017, 20:42:50 PM
Because the wadding can be quilted up to 10" apart, and I am not piecing squares, I thought I could stitch along the squares to make it look more traditional, would that work?  Not sure about diagonal.

Just because you can quilt as much as 10" apart doesn't mean that you have to, or even that you should.

Also would it be best to pin or baste the layers?
Personally I prefer pinning.  Whenever I've tried to thread baste layers together I've always ended up getting those huge stitches caught up in the machine foot.


I've just had another thought, if I do use the same fabric for the backing I would have to try to match up the squares  :(.  Not sure I'm ready for that yet!
I'd say it's almost impossible to exactly match patterns on front and back, and if you are quilting around/with the printed squares it would not look good if the patterns don't match!  Go for a smallish, all-over pattern for the backing, preferably something swirly and random rather than geometric.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 06, 2017, 21:07:07 PM
Thanks Brenda, I'm beginning wish I hadn't promised this.  I have never done FMQ only WF lines on small samples  :[  -<

I think I should get a different fabric for the back, maybe a spot. I would feel happier doing straight lines I think :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Iminei on May 07, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
Don't stress yourself out Lillian

I hadn't realised that you are using a complete piece of fabric and quilting it together

(Ahem...I started out that way too!)

A small random pattern is best for the backing.

Its a small project, you can Spray Baste with 505 for this.
And then, sew with a Walking Foot (although when i started I didn't have one, but if you do...use it. it makes life soooo much easier!!) along the lines.

Turn the quilt so the least amount of quilt is passing through the harp space.
(There will be a time when half your quilt will be under the harp but with a cot size this wont be too difficult.)

 .... and sew as slowly as you wish. It won't be half as difficult as you imagine, but dont dilly dally you'll work yourself up...just do it.

Have some favourite music or the radio on while you sew.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 07, 2017, 22:18:16 PM
Don't stress yourself out Lillian

I hadn't realised that you are using a complete piece of fabric and quilting it together

(Ahem...I started out that way too!)

A small random pattern is best for the backing.

Its a small project, you can Spray Baste with 505 for this.
And then, sew with a Walking Foot (although when i started I didn't have one, but if you do...use it. it makes life soooo much easier!!) along the lines.

Turn the quilt so the least amount of quilt is passing through the harp space.
(There will be a time when half your quilt will be under the harp but with a cot size this wont be too difficult.)

 .... and sew as slowly as you wish. It won't be half as difficult as you imagine, but dont dilly dally you'll work yourself up...just do it.

Have some favourite music or the radio on while you sew.

Thanks for the advice Imi, I am looking for a suitable backing fabric, I found some blue with white dots that may fit.  But now I am thinking if the Holly Hobbie fabric is really suitable for a boy?  I did check the patterns and there are no girls on it  -<.

I will use my walking foot and I need to get some spray baste.  I know I should start in the middle somewhere and also cut the wadding larger than the fabric.  I am slowly gearing up  :[ ready to start.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Iminei on May 08, 2017, 07:09:12 AM
But now I am thinking if the Holly Hobbie fabric is really suitable for a boy?  I did check the patterns and there are no girls on it

Its for a baby right??? Its a baby...It doesn't matter as long as its not PINK!

I wish we were closer I would love to come over and walk you through this...
The biggest problem is the fact you haven't done this before!

You are going to be so pleased at how easy this is going to be...Trust me!
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 09, 2017, 00:26:08 AM
But now I am thinking if the Holly Hobbie fabric is really suitable for a boy?  I did check the patterns and there are no girls on it

Its for a baby right??? Its a baby...It doesn't matter as long as its not PINK!

I wish we were closer I would love to come over and walk you through this...
The biggest problem is the fact you haven't done this before!

You are going to be so pleased at how easy this is going to be...Trust me!

Thank you Imi, I was at the local craft group today.  I mentioned it to them and I didn't realize that one of the girls there is big on quilting!  She said to bring it all with me next week and they will all look at it, and, she said she has spray baste I can borrow.  :)

I have ordered some gingham, very small, to back it with as it should match with the gingham squares on the front.  I'll post a pic when it arrives on Thursday.  :snip:  :vintage:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 20, 2017, 14:44:05 PM
I have time this weekend to make a start on the baby quilt.  I have laid out the fabric but want to follow the squares of the pattern.  I can't decide which size to do.  The squares measure 6.5 inches sq.

Maybe 5 x 7 squares which measures 33 1/2 by 43 1/2 inches?  Does that sound suitable?

Here is a pic of the backing fabric too, it's a lovely soft poplin. :vintage:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: BrendaP on May 20, 2017, 15:46:41 PM
That's big enough for a standard size cot with a bit of tuck-in each side, or for use as a play mat on the floor.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Iminei on May 23, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Thats lovely... Just go for it, Im sure you'll relax when you see how easy and pleasurable it will be.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on May 29, 2017, 15:24:18 PM
Ok so I've done the quilting, I think I have cut it wrong because now it's time to put on the binding.  I don't know what size is best.  Looking at the pattern squares, I should have left some overhang to attach the binding so that the squares around the edge are all full  :\.  So would a small binding work as well - 1" maybe making 1/2 once folded?
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: BrendaP on May 29, 2017, 15:44:27 PM
Binding usually is narrow, but often there is a border between the patches and the binding, and the border (or borders) can be anything from about 1/2" up to 6"-8" wide.

Ideally you should have left the seam allowances on all around the edge, but there are no quilt police and if you cut them off it's because you wanted it that way :flower:

The edges of a quilt are what get most wear, thus a lot of people like to make a double binding (http://www.loganberryhandmade.com/bind-quilt-tutorial/).

I like my bindings quite firm and use 2" strips folded in half.  Others like then a bit looser/softer and use 2.5" strips
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 02, 2017, 18:54:02 PM
I finished the quilt today.  I struggled with the binding   :( and am not overly happy with that part, but as a first quilt ever, it's not too bad.

It measures 39" by 46".

Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Pearl on June 02, 2017, 18:57:45 PM
Very nice, Lilian.   <3  It deserves to be cherished.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lowena on June 02, 2017, 18:59:14 PM
That's lovely Lilian, including the binding. You should be very pleased  :toast:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 02, 2017, 19:00:07 PM
Thanks Pearl, hopefully it will be cherished, it is a gift for a baby due on 14th June, except he was so eager to join the outside world that he arrived last Friday!   :toast:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 02, 2017, 19:00:55 PM
That's lovely Lilian, including the binding. You should be very pleased  :toast:

Thanks Lowena, you live and learn, and I learned something from this  :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: rubywishes on June 02, 2017, 23:33:11 PM
That's a lovely quilt....you should be quite chuffed with yourself, I'm sure it will be hugely loved and appreciated!
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 02, 2017, 23:43:20 PM
That's a lovely quilt....you should be quite chuffed with yourself, I'm sure it will be hugely loved and appreciated!

Thanks Ruby, I am chuffed with it, it was quite easy apart from the binding.  :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lantana on June 03, 2017, 01:12:23 AM
Just adding my voice to the appreciation Lillian. You've made a gorgeous job of it from the design through to the binding! Lucky little boy!

L :vintage:
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 03, 2017, 01:31:38 AM
Thanks Lanty, I can't take credit for the design, that was the design, I just quilted along the squares.  :vintage:  :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: maliw on June 04, 2017, 11:06:56 AM
A job very well done, be proud of yourself. I know that it will be appreciated, probably as a playmat to begin with -both DD and DDIL have put their little ones to bed in sleeping bags/growbags - yes I know, the mind boggles at growbags!!!! but with the warmer weather the two older ones have been sleeping under quilts. They are both over a year old now and the two year old was to it was a special quilt as he was so used to his growbag.  Your quilt may become a snuggle quilt as the boy gets older  too.
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 04, 2017, 23:04:55 PM
I hope so Maliw.  Thanks for the lovely comment  :)
Title: Re: best thread for quilting
Post by: Lilian on June 04, 2017, 23:06:14 PM
That's big enough for a standard size cot with a bit of tuck-in each side, or for use as a play mat on the floor.

I followed the pattern squares so that really determined the size.  It is big enough, as you say.  :)