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Machine Talk => Sewing Machines => Topic started by: Sewbee on February 15, 2020, 18:55:59 PM
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If I go ahead and buy the Bernina 720, which of these, if any, would you trade in:
- Bernina 570QE - three years old
- Bernina 1008 - six months old
- Bernina 830 Record
I know my dealer would only give about £100 for the 830 so I think I will keep that one. But which of the other two, if any?
I can find reasons to keep them all but what individual needs four machines! The 1008 was purchased for nostalgia’s sake - and as a manual back-up when I heard it was being discontinued.
The obvious one is the 570. It has the 5.5 mm width and CB hook.
What to do! Any suggestions, anyone?
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Really difficult to decide, if you are keeping the 830 do you need the 1008?
I know what you mean about too many machines, it is also my problem
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Shouldn't ask me. I'd sell them all and buy a Brother. :P :toast:
My thought is if you value them all the same as far as using them I'd find out what they'd offer for each of them and trade the one they'd give the most for.
There may be little difference on the trade in value. If that's the case, keep the one you use most now.
PS: I have 4 machines. Only use one, others are more sentimental (and need cleaning. ) Plus overlocker and 3 of those cheap little machines I use sewing paper and with friends for crafting.
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It seems that when you get your 720 you'd have two distinct groupings of machine. Two mechanical and two modern computerised. As Celia says, do you need both?
Now I'm a good one to talk with my four Berninas 10, 11, & 1500 series machines but then I'm not spending a big chunk of money on the 720. Although parting with machines is really against my personality, I'd suggest letting one of the mechanicals go and the 570 too.
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I'm with Rene. You only need one machine and that has to be a Brother imo :D
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I'm with Rene. You only need one machine and that has to be a Brother imo :D
:toast: hehehe
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I'm with Rene. You only need one machine and that has to be a Brother imo :D
But have you ever tried a Bernina :devil:
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Been thinking about this a lot this morning. I think it’s between the 570 and the 1008. I know he wouldn’t give me anything for the 830 anyway. In fact, he made a comment on the phone the other day that you can buy them for £100! I paid a lot more than that, though.
I could keep them all, of course, but I don’t “need” them. I can justify every one of them, though. Oh dear!
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Definitely enquire what your dealer will give you. Some dealers are not willing to do trade-ins at all. :\
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@Sewbee what part of the country are you in, is there not another dealer handy?
I love the challenge of a new machine that is my problem then I am not sure what I want to sew :devil:
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@Sewbee what part of the country are you in, is there not another dealer handy?
I love the challenge of a new machine that is my problem then I am not sure what I want to sew :devil:
There is another dealer in Stirling, quite a distance away. I could go there and see what he says. I am just west of Edinburgh in Scotland.
My present dealer is only a 25-minute train ride away and close to the railway station which makes it handy for transporting machines for servicing. They are good but if you buy anything, even notions and thread, prices are high.
My problem is trying to decide if I should trade in a machine or not. I am nit sure this dealer would give the best price even if I decide to trade one in.
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Ah, I have just gone back and read your other thread on the price your dealer quoted @Sewbee after I realised that I knew who you were talking about ;)
I always knew he was a good salesman (I have heard the 'snow to Inuit' line quoted), but not that he played games with prices :(
Can't do any harm to make enquiries in Stirling - never dealt with them myself, but I haven't been aware of any criticisms.
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Ah, I have just gone back and read your other thread on the price your dealer quoted @Sewbee after I realised that I knew who you were talking about ;)
I always knew he was a good salesman (I have heard the 'snow to Inuit' line quoted), but not that he played games with prices :(
Can't do any harm to make enquiries in Stirling - never dealt with them myself, but I haven't been aware of any criticisms.
Yes, that’s the one!
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I know who you are talking about and it is interesting, he always quotes better prices to people who are further away, a friend bought from him and he gave an amazing trade in, however local people seem to get a bad deal, not great. I did buy from him once but he was the only dealer that had the machine I wanted.
I have never used the shop in Stirling but a friend of mine knows him well and recommends him.
The best Bernina dealer I know is Frank Knutt in Birmingham, he always seems very fair and is good at dealing long distance, he might be worth a phone call. https://www.franknutt.co.uk/ I bought my Bernina 350 there.
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The one in Stirling is great have got a few machines from him wouldn't go anywhere else
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I know who you are talking about and it is interesting, he always quotes better prices to people who are further away, a friend bought from him and he gave an amazing trade in, however local people seem to get a bad deal, not great. I did buy from him once but he was the only dealer that had the machine I wanted.
I have never used the shop in Stirling but a friend of mine knows him well and recommends him.
The best Bernina dealer I know is Frank Knutt in Birmingham, he always seems very fair and is good at dealing long distance, he might be worth a phone call. https://www.franknutt.co.uk/ I bought my Bernina 350 there.
I think I will give Pembertons in Stirling and Frank Knutt a call tomorrow. Something just snapped inside me when my present dealer quoted an additional £100. Again, it is just principle.
I Still have to decide whether to trade the 1008 or the 570.
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As I said before, I have both the 720 and the 570. I find they're very similar - same size foot, similar screen and icons (but not the same) so I've found since I've had my 720 I haven't taken the cover off my 570. I still love it but the 720 beats it hands down and I will only use the 570 as a "spare" machine in case my 720 needs to go for service or repair.
I don't know whether this will help as I can't make comparison with the 1008. If I didn't have the 720 I would love the 570 .... but .... as I do have the 570 it is rather similar to the 720. I'm getting tied up in knots here so I'll stop. ;)
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I think I would trade in the 570, as there are some similarities with your potential purchase! The other two Bernina's will go on for ever so I would keep them. Both of them seem to fetch reasonable prices on Facebook Marketplace if you have decided to sell them! I have sold a couple of machines via Facebook marketplace and they have sold extremely quickly!
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As I said before, I have both the 720 and the 570. I find they're very similar - same size foot, similar screen and icons (but not the same) so I've found since I've had my 720 I haven't taken the cover off my 570. I still love it but the 720 beats it hands down and I will only use the 570 as a "spare" machine in case my 720 needs to go for service or repair.
I don't know whether this will help as I can't make comparison with the 1008. If I didn't have the 720 I would love the 570 .... but .... as I do have the 570 it is rather similar to the 720. I'm getting tied up in knots here so I'll stop. ;)
Thank you for that @Kenora
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I think I would trade in the 570, as there are some similarities with your potential purchase! The other two Bernina's will go on for ever so I would keep them. Both of them seem to fetch reasonable prices on Facebook Marketplace if you have decided to sell them! I have sold a couple of machines via Facebook marketplace and they have sold extremely quickly!
So difficult to decide. I think you might be right about trading the 570 - even though I’d like to keep it/all of them
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Thank you for that @Kenora
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The one in Stirling is great have got a few machines from him wouldn't go anywhere else
That is a great recommendation. Thank you.
Tomorrow I will call the Stirling dealer and Frank Nutt and see how I feel about them.
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Any news re your dilemma or are you still thinking @Sewbee
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I would keep the Bernina Record 830 and trade in the other two but perhaps the way to decide is which machine would you miss most. I know some members love their Brother machines but I was lent one to use at a class and hated it, however, to be fair it was a bottom of the range model, and it put me off Brothers. Please let us know what you eventually decide.
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Hi @Celia and @So Chic -
I called the dealer in Stirling but when I asked the woman who answered if they sold Berninas, she hummed and hawed and said she would have to go and see if they had any secondhand ones.
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@Sewbee - I was like that before I ordered my 720. I actually told the dealer I wanted one, so they put it on order but didn't take delivery from Bernina, and then I dithered so much that Bernina had sold it when I wanted it. It then took me another 6 months before I placed a firm order. Of course, I then had to wait 4 weeks for Bernina to build it, but it was definitely worth it. :) (I could have gone for the 770 or the 790 but I didn't want the wider foot or the dual feed. I'm very happy with the 5.5mm foot and my walking foot.)
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I would keep the Bernina Record 830 and trade in the other two but perhaps the way to decide is which machine would you miss most. I know some members love their Brother machines but I was lent one to use at a class and hated it, however, to be fair it was a bottom of the range model, and it put me off Brothers. Please let us know what you eventually decide.
It’s like trying to decide which of your children to part with.
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@Sewbee - I was like that before I ordered my 720. I actually told the dealer I wanted one, so they put it on order but didn't take delivery from Bernina, and then I dithered so much that Bernina had sold it when I wanted it. It then took me another 6 months before I placed a firm order. Of course, I then had to wait 4 weeks for Bernina to build it, but it was definitely worth it. :) (I could have gone for the 770 or the 790 but I didn't want the wider foot or the dual feed. I'm very happy with the 5.5mm foot and my walking foot.)
I don’t want the 9 mm either. I much prefer the 5.5 mm.
I honestly think trying to make a decision, first of all, about whether to go ahead and actually buy it, but also which machine if any to trade in, is worse than actually doing it.
I know me, though. I always go through this before an expensive purchase. It usually takes me about three months before I decide what car I want to buy and this is very similar. I have to be absolutely sure it is the right thing to do and also be absolutely sure about which one to trade in, if any, before I will go ahead with it.
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@Sewbee - I think we're very alike in our thinking. Good luck! :)
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Glad to hear you were impressed with Frank Nutts I am also a great ditherer when I have a large purchase to make, I often feel I am over researching but it helps me.
Good luck with your decision
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When faced with a big decision with lots of variables I first reject the things I definitely don't want. That usually leaves me with only two, or three at most.
What do you want to eat? ?????? :o
Do you want steak or chicken? Easy peasy! :)
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With a trade-in at the dealers you seldom get good deals. Perhaps you could try to sell the machine(s) you use the least privately?
Regarding your decision which sewing machine to let go, you could make it once you get your new Bernina and see what of you other machines you are not enclined to use regularly anymore.
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Hi @Celia and @Gittje -
I could sell privately but it is easier to trade in. In truth, I haven’t really decided whether to sell or trade in yet. I need to decide which machine to get rid of first and that’s difficult. You are right @Gittje, you usually get a better price if you sell privately.
The reason I feel myself wanting to hold on to the 570 is because it is a nice 5.5 mm machine “with the CB hook” where the new 720 has the new Bernina hook. I have about three bobbin boxes full of the silver bobbins, although I think I could use them on the 1008. I seem to remember the local dealer telling me the 1008 takes different bobbins, though, so I bought more. But they look the same as the others to me!
@wrenkins That’s the trouble! There is no machine that I really don’t want.
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@Sewbee - the new Bernina S-570 has the 9.00mm foot which you said you didn't want. It's also only got 8.5" harp space but maybe that doesn't matter to you if you don't do much P&Q. Hope this helps. :)
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@Sewbee - the new Bernina S-570 has the 9.00mm foot which you said you didn't want. It's also only got 8.5" harp space but maybe that doesn't matter to you if you don't do much P&Q. Hope this helps. :)
Oh that’s right @Kenora! I forgot all about the 9 mm. I have a feeling this is what figured into my desire to hold on to my present 570, as well as the CB hook.
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My head is in a whirl with all this! In fact, my head actually hurts.
Oh @Sewbee, the hunt for me is the best part about it, comparing this and that and then prices, reviews, usually coming back to what I wanted in the first place.
I've never had a trade in, I always sell privately, usually on Preloved (also TSP).
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Oh @Sewbee, the hunt for me is the best part about it, comparing this and that and then prices, reviews, usually coming back to what I wanted in the first place.
I've never had a trade in, I always sell privately, usually on Preloved (also TSP).
I am definitely enjoying it even though the decision-making is a bit lacking at the moment.
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Good luck with your purchase @Sewbee . The technical discussion about Berninas is a bit beyond me but people speak so highly of Berninas maybe I need to invest in one! :devil:
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Good luck with your purchase @Sewbee . The technical discussion about Berninas is a bit beyond me but people speak so highly of Berninas maybe I need to invest in one! :devil:
@Tamnymore You should definitely invest in a Bernina! I have used Bernina since 1987 and had the same two machines until five years ago.
Prior to having Berninas, I had a Singer Athena for about two years - purchased brand new - but it was just dreadful. Then I bought a brand new Viking 6570. That was much better and I sewed on it until I took a sewing class learning at an independent store that used Berninas. They had the 830 Record and the 930 Record. I gave the Viking to my mum and bought the 930. That was one of the machines I had until five years ago. The other was a 1260 and between those two had everything in the world I could have wanted.
Those Berninas handled anything you threw at them.
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Well I've just been digging round the Bambers website - they're one of my nearest dealers. When they say that a machine will last 25-30 years I fear it will outlast me! Tempted though....