It's funny that SMW said that about the Bernina's because the lady at Bambers said something similar yesterday. She said the Juki MO-114DE was basically the same model as the Bernina L450 because Juki used to make them but don't anymore?
SMW also said that Bambers definitely told me wrong only offering 12 months warranty as the warranty is set by the manufacturer which for Bernina's is 2 years....no matter where you buy it from. Bambers did tell me if I wanted extra warranty I'd have to pay £80 for it
At my trial yesterday I was put off the above Juki model only for the fact that the upper looper thread kept snapping when trying to do a rolled hem. Granted she messed about with the tension and it was fine then but it didn't help. Plus yes the missing bin was another offput for me.
However, there was a problem with the Bernina too. When I took my foot off the pedal it carried on sewing and wouldn't stop, had to turn it off at the switch. She said the pedal was probably sticking because it was old. The Juki produced a better rolled hem than the Bernina but I wasn't sure if it was just down to the settings.
I've noticed that none of the Juki's have a bin but I suppose I can't let that alone decide on what I buy. As I've seen above there's things you can buy instead, or indeed make one... it's just a feature I liked. I don't do mess
It's probably wise I write down all the features of the Bernina I liked and try to find a Juki that has the same.....obviously minus the bin.